[News] Tkachuk notifies Flames he won't sign long term (The Athletic)

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think Tkachuk will get a decent return…but feel like people are setting themselves up to be disappointed.

Brayden Point isn’t happening.

Oh I am fully prepared to be disappointed. I have no faith in management at all. A rookie GM like Grier will probably trade us Karlsson for Tkachuk.

Someone else mentioned Point and I said it would be great from a Flames perspective but not a Tampa one.

[Bonded]

I am just shocked by the dearth of leaks. I hope it is done tomorrow morning so I can move on haha

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by memphusk

The Kyrou, Tarasenko, and 1st is intriguing to me, but I have big plans after acquiring that package.Trade Tarasenko for a first. Kyrou for a first plus. Trade Hanafin for a first. Trade Lindholm for a first. Trade Markstrom for whatever. Give him a chance to win. Same for Backlund. Trade Tanev for a first or prospect plus. Keep Kylington and Andersson. Build around those two for the next 3-4 years. Things will get better. Really get a Landeskog vibe from Andersson. The kid has made many adjustments to his game and really truly gives a ####. Need more of that.

Seems doable

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Umm, what did I miss?

Why are we even discussing Point?

Why would Tampa trade their #1C?

I didn't bring up Point but people keep saying Tkachuk is right below Matthews and McDavid

Point is a downgrade apparently

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I didn't bring up Point but people keep saying Tkachuk is right below Matthews and McDavid

Point is a downgrade apparently

Set your expectations high, Brad was able to lockdown Milan Lucic for us for 4 years. Anything is possible.

[Reggie Dunlop]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1549865268741959680

[OILFAN #81]

Tkachuk for Point would be a solid trade for Calgary.

[browna]

As mentioned, contract wise Tkachuk has done the Flames almost worse then JG in his time here. If JG had the same contract he would've been gone 2y ago.

Tkachuk is an excellent player, if he's in the right situation. He had flashes the last few years but also distractions. His flipping tables in the room after the puck flip at his face really divided the room. His antics seemed to stop this season as he could focus most on his chemistry with JG, but sure enough, unnecessary 2nd fight with Heskinen in game 3 really limited him in the playoffs.

Never got the same warm and fuzzies he was a long term Flame. When JG left his main reason for staying was gone.

My guess is these leaks came out for a reason, Flames are pretty air tight and maybe the agent is pushing the Flames towards some teams.

Again though, Darryl will use every bit of these situations in motivation for the team in his time remaining here.

[bigrangy]

He has an NMC but I wonder if Benn wouldn’t mind coming here for 2 years. Trade Tkachuk for Benn+prospects. Dallas loads up, clears cap, and fully transitions off of Benn to the young guys. They’d probably still want to be rid of seguin but his contract is toxic.

Any 2 or maybe even all three of Stankoven/Johnston/Bourque and a first would be a solid package to go for it in a couple years.

[UnitedFlames]

Originally Posted by Owen15

That is an interesting post. Why?

He just strikes me as the kind of guy that, if fed up with Chucky’s nonsense, would be happy to lower the boom, if the opportunity presented itself.

[cheevers]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

Not to self: While legends are fair game, never attach a current player to your username.

Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk

Theo Fleury says...well something bat#### insane

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

We aren't getting Brayden Point for Tkachuk...so let's just get that out of the way right now.

Actually Point for Tkachuk would be a pretty fair "hockey trade".

[Dion]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1549940977996967938

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

This feels like the coming of the new NHL.

I think this will start happening to other teams as well and players will be acting more like NBA stars who move around a lot and plot to play with other stars in big markets.

For a small Canadian market team like the Flames this is absolutely terrible and we better build through the draft to have any chance of ever winning a championship again. Even then, you likely lose your superstars after their ELCs so this really could be the death of hope for teams like us.

With the added emphasis on sports gambling, I think being a hockey fan 5-10 years from now is going to be a completely different thing than what we grew up with.

Yes and no. I can see stars picking where they want to play more often but I think the salary cap prevents multiple stars playing together and winning.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

He has an NMC but I wonder if Benn wouldn’t mind coming here for 2 years.

Depends


Do we get to drive Benn out to the desert and leave him there?

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Florida has Denisenko and Samskovich but their next two firsts are gone already. That means a big ticket roster player coming back with the two prospects, and Florida is in big cap trouble. I don't see a path.

There’s a spot for Bennett now

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by memphusk

The Kyrou, Tarasenko, and 1st is intriguing to me, but I have big plans after acquiring that package.Trade Tarasenko for a first. Kyrou for a first plus. Trade Hanafin for a first. Trade Lindholm for a first. Trade Markstrom for whatever. Give him a chance to win. Same for Backlund. Trade Tanev for a first or prospect plus. Keep Kylington and Andersson. Build around those two for the next 3-4 years. Things will get better. Really get a Landeskog vibe from Andersson. The kid has made many adjustments to his game and really truly gives a ####. Need more of that.

I dont mind these ideas but doing all of them isn’t realistic.

Part of me kinda hopes we keep some of the guys we have to avoid a total tear down and insulate the incoming youth.

Out of the regulars that are still here I would prefer to keep:

Lindholm
Mangiapane
Dube
Andersson
Kylington
Vladar
Monahan - allow him to rebound here and see what his value is come TDL

That would leave:

Backlund
Coleman
Toffoli
Tanev
Hanifin
Zadorov
Markstrom

As trade pieces.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

He has an NMC but I wonder if Benn wouldn’t mind coming here for 2 years. Trade Tkachuk for Benn+prospects. Dallas loads up, clears cap, and fully transitions off of Benn to the young guys. They’d probably still want to be rid of seguin but his contract is toxic.

Any 2 or maybe even all three of Stankoven/Johnston/Bourque and a first would be a solid package to go for it in a couple years.

Tkachuk for Jamie Benn plus prospects is a big loss for Calgary imo. Benn is 33 years old and hasn’t hit 55 points in the past 4 years. This isn’t Benn from 7-8 years ago. He’s on the decline and is a 40-50 point player now.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

Actually Point for Tkachuk would be a pretty fair "hockey trade".

It would but the Lightning have no reason to make that trade.

He’s a Center who has great chemistry with Kucherov and they’ve won two cups.

Also Point has 78 points in 76 career playoff games, Tkachuk has 15 in 27.

Unless Point has secretly demanded a trade it will not happen

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Umm, what did I miss?

Why are we even discussing Point?

Why would Tampa trade their #1C?

Cause Stamkos is still a stud and they need a bit of a retool.