07-20-2022, 10:20 AM
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#441
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
Hey - hold on now. I resemble that remark!
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I feel you, brother.
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07-20-2022, 10:27 AM
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#442
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by devo22
it wasn't. The original Wasserman statement had that SLAPP threat too:
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Yeah, your right... I was focusing on the individual statements. My bad.
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07-20-2022, 10:52 AM
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#443
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
Totally agree. I also notice who is NOT pursuing this with any vigor. Journalists with more cache like Friedman and insiders with precious relationships with agents are noticeably quiet.
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Everyone has their areas of focus. I don't think Friedman's employer wanted him to forget about the draft and free agency to dig into this. Just like Westhead doesn't break trades or signings. And now Friedman will take a well deserved holiday.
Investigative journalism - especially on a case like this - requires a lot of tunnel vision.
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07-20-2022, 11:28 AM
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#444
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Everyone has their areas of focus. I don't think Friedman's employer wanted him to forget about the draft and free agency to dig into this. Just like Westhead doesn't break trades or signings. And now Friedman will take a well deserved holiday.
Investigative journalism - especially on a case like this - requires a lot of tunnel vision.
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Its pretty well known that Friedman and the like won't push after 'bad' news too badly. They faced the same criticism on the Kyle Beech news. They didn't report anything there and it was Westhead and Strang who did the vast majority of that reporting.
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07-20-2022, 11:42 AM
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#445
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Everyone has their areas of focus. I don't think Friedman's employer wanted him to forget about the draft and free agency to dig into this. Just like Westhead doesn't break trades or signings. And now Friedman will take a well deserved holiday.
Investigative journalism - especially on a case like this - requires a lot of tunnel vision.
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It's bleeding into free agency though - look at Steel
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07-20-2022, 01:12 PM
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#446
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Chief of police in London has released this statement related to this incident:
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am aware of the significant public interest surrounding an investigation completed by the London Police Service in 2018. I can confirm that a sexual assault investigation commenced in June of 2018, by members of our Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Section in relation to an incident reported to have occurred at a hotel in the 300-block of Dundas Street. A lengthy and detailed investigation took place, and in February of 2019, it was concluded with no criminal charges laid.
To ensure due diligence, given the serious nature of this allegation, I have directed that an internal review of the investigation be conducted to determine what, if any, additional investigative avenues may exist. While this review will be initiated immediately, there is no predetermined timeline for its completion.
The London Police Service is committed to thoroughly investigating all complaints of sexual assault. Along with our community partners, we will fully support those who come forward and we encourage anyone who has experienced sexual violence to report the incident to police so that the matter can be investigated.
Further information will be released as appropriate
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https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/...of-police.aspx
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07-20-2022, 03:21 PM
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#447
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Its pretty well known that Friedman and the like won't push after 'bad' news too badly. They faced the same criticism on the Kyle Beech news. They didn't report anything there and it was Westhead and Strang who did the vast majority of that reporting.
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There's also a collegial element there - it could be a bit of a dick move for a 'star' insider to swoop in after fellow journos have cracked the door open. Which isn't to say it's a turf thing and that more people can't ask questions, but it takes A LOT more work to get something like this reportable.
I'd bet guys like Friedman kick some tires and pass along relevant info to their colleagues who are actually deep on this story.
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07-20-2022, 04:05 PM
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#448
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Lifetime Suspension
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Identify the ####ers. There's no hiding from this ####.
Even the guys who weren't there would have knowledge of who was. Why does it feel like the highest priority is protecting identities of these scumbags.
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07-20-2022, 04:15 PM
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#449
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Identify the ####ers. There's no hiding from this ####.
Even the guys who weren't there would have knowledge of who was. Why does it feel like the highest priority is protecting identities of these scumbags.
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I am keen on seeing these people identified, in due course.
I do think that they are likely suffering right now, regardless of currently being identified or not. Imagine having this big of a knife swinging over your head? They are sweating like dogs, no doubt in my mind.
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07-20-2022, 04:17 PM
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#450
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Lifetime Suspension
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Partly though because part of me needs to know if Dube had any part of this.
I'd like to believe he didn't. And he seems like stand up kid today. But thats a colossal mistake if so and there's no running away from it.
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07-20-2022, 05:29 PM
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#451
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
I am keen on seeing these people identified, in due course.
I do think that they are likely suffering right now, regardless of currently being identified or not. Imagine having this big of a knife swinging over your head? They are sweating like dogs, no doubt in my mind.
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We can also take solace that they aren't the only ones. The other settlements Hockey Canada did that went unnoticed and who knows what other organizations have done probably have other people sweating too.
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07-20-2022, 06:07 PM
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#452
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Franchise Player
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I feel like I’ve missed a lot on this story, can someone ELI5 what has happened since the settlement? I thought it was over because of the settlement/NDA.
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07-20-2022, 06:37 PM
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#453
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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July 20: National Equity Fund will no longer be used to settle sexual assault claims, Colton Point releases statement
July 19: More members of the 2018 World Junior team release statements, Canadian MP slams Hockey Canada
MP Chris Bittle addresses a report from the Globe and Mail that revealed Hockey Canada used a fund consisting of youth players’ registration fees to pay out sexual assault cases, calling it “absolutely shocking” and “troubling.” Hockey Canada also releases a statement saying that it is conducting a full governance review, which would include the administration of the National Equity Fund. Hockey Canada acknowledges the fund is used to cover claims that aren’t covered by insurance premiums including “harassment” and “sexual misconduct.”
Jordan Kyrou, Taylor Raddysh, Robert Thomas and Sam Steel release statements denying any involvement in the 2018 incident. Kyrou says he wasn’t at the gala in London, while Raddysh and Thomas both say they were not involved. Steel’s statement is released through his agent, Gerry Johansson. All four players say that they will cooperate with any future investigations.
Scott Fenton, a criminal defence lawyer tells Global News that none of Wasserman Hockey’s six players — including Kyrou, Point and Raddysh, but also Jake Bean, Kale Clague, Carter Hart — who were on that 2018 team “engaged in wrongdoing.” They also cooperated with the London Police Service during their investigation in 2018, and were then “cleared of any wrongdoing.”
David Cowan of O2K Sports Management also told Global News that his client, Dillon Dube, did not ‘engage in any wrongdoing’ while also cooperating with London Police during their investigation.
July 18: Conor Timmins denies any involvement in the alleged assault
July 14: Alleged victim says she’ll participate in new Hockey Canada investigation and an open letter
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June 30: Victor Mete denies involvement, Canadian restaurants suspend partnerships
June 29: Telus, Tim Hortons and BDO Canada suspend and pause partnerships with Hockey Canada
June 28: Canadian Tire and Scotiabank both withdraw and suspend support of Hockey Canada
June 23: Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage schedules hearings for July 26-27
The committee invites Canadian Minister of Sport Pascale St-Onge, Hockey Canada and the third-party investigator into the sexual assault case to stand before them. St-Onge also told TSN that government funds for Hockey Canada would be frozen until the governing body agrees to work with a third-party group that would investigate abuse complaints.
June 21: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau blasts Hockey Canada
June 20: Hockey Canada officials testify in front of Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage
June 14: Cale Makar denies any involvement with 2018 incident
May 30: Agents for Dante Fabbro and Cal Foote say they weren’t involved
May 27: Jonah Gadjovich’s agent Jason Harshaw says he was not involved
May 26: The NHL says it will conduct an investigation into the Hockey Canada/CHL lawsuit
May 26: Hockey Canada and Canadian Hockey League settle sexual assault lawsuit
TSN’s Rick Westhead first reports details of the lawsuit and that Hockey Canada settled with the alleged victim.
April 20: Alleged victim files lawsuit against Hockey Canada and Canadian Hockey League
In the lawsuit, the alleged victim refers to the players accused as John Does 1-8. The claim also says the players involved were “members of the CHL and Hockey Canada, including but not limited to members of Canada’s U20 men’s junior hockey team.”
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From here - https://theathletic.com/3437209/2022...tion-timeline/
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07-20-2022, 06:46 PM
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#454
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First Line Centre
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There are two kinds of responses..."not involved in any wrongdoing" and "physically not present". Based on the number of players that have said physically not present...this is becoming a fairly short list of players that claim "no wrongdoing".
Storm clouds definitely circling...
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07-20-2022, 06:57 PM
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#455
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Can any of the lawyers say whether that 1 month time frame between when the suit was filed thes settled was normal? That seems really fast to me.
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 07-20-2022 at 07:06 PM.
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07-20-2022, 07:05 PM
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#456
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Can any of the lawyers say whether that 1 month time frame between when the suit was filed the settled was normal? That seems really fast to me.
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Incredibly, head-spinningly fast.
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07-20-2022, 07:08 PM
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#457
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by codynw
I feel like I’ve missed a lot on this story, can someone ELI5 what has happened since the settlement? I thought it was over because of the settlement/NDA.
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Hockey Canada used tax money to hush off a gang rape, and people want answers.
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07-20-2022, 07:10 PM
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#458
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by OptimalTates
We can also take solace that they aren't the only ones. The other settlements Hockey Canada did that went unnoticed and who knows what other organizations have done probably have other people sweating too.
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I don’t exactly take solace in the prevalence of sexual assault (but I know what you’re trying to say)
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07-20-2022, 07:38 PM
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#460
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I find it disturbing that a bunch of the guys who made “iffy” statements or none at all are Alberta/WHL kids. Who’d know each other even more than from WJC.
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