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Old 07-20-2022, 03:39 PM   #541
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If rangers are involved I want Lafrenière.

Kid is going to pop and become an elite power forward himself.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:39 PM   #542
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If we are tearing it down, we need to seriously consider trading Lindholm. He is easily the most valuable asset that we have, and nets multiple 1st round picks plus prospects in a trade.

3 x 2023 first round picks or bust.
None of those will be a Selkeholm.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:39 PM   #543
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Francis suggesting NYR or LA as good fits.
LA to play with Doughty would be great theatre
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:40 PM   #544
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LA is interesting, I would be intrigued to see what package of futures they would offer. Screw the rags, send him to the Island if he wants the big apple.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:40 PM   #545
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Johnny gave up 1 year of UFA.

Calgary couldn't afford to sign Tkachuk for more than a bridge deal.

It's not screwing the team by choosing where he wants to play once he hits UFA. It's really the only time players get to choose.

He's not demanding a trade, he's willing to go to arbitration and get a one year deal. It's simply in Calgary's best interest to trade him so he doesn't walk for nothing.
Honestly, both are tactical errors by Treliving.

For the Johnny contract, the fact that he insisted on the stupid "Gio" cap really handcuffed himself, so in the end, he was only able to get Johnny on a 6 year deal because he was unwilling to sign for more money.

Had the Flames offered Matthew a similar deal that Brady got (8 years x $8M) rather than insisting on max $7M per year, I really think Chucky would have signed it then. Again, a tactical error by Treliving that came back to bite him, just like the Johnny deal.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:40 PM   #546
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Would you guys trade Tkachuk for Lafrenieire or Byfield in a 1 for 1 deal?
Nope, if they added an unprotected 1st yes potentially,
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:40 PM   #547
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All the talk about Tkachuk being honorable and transparent while Gaudreau was a deceitful weasel is WILD.

Tkachuk signed a 3yr ELC, then a 3 year bridge deal for $7MM AAV that was backloaded in his favor. Now instead of negotiating his final year or negotiating an extension, he's demanding a trade and saying he won't play his final year here. That is a dick move.

Flames are supposed to have him for 7 years -- he says nah brah, you get me for 6, with some trading power. People here are congratulating him for how honest he is, when really he is screwing the team hard.

Gaudreau gave up two years of UFA status and signed a very team friendly deal. People continue to #### on him.
Not a huge fan of either anymore after all this truthfully.

The truth is they both kind of screwed us.
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Francis suggesting NYR or LA as good fits.
Him and Doughty on the same team would be hilarious
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:41 PM   #549
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So with those 5 teams: St Louis, Dallas, Florida,
Vegas and Nashville.

Tkachuk for Sam Bennett! Lol.

Ok jokes aside. St Louis I feel for Calgary makes the most sense. I hope he doesn’t go to Vegas.
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If we are tearing it down, we need to seriously consider trading Lindholm. He is easily the most valuable asset that we have, and nets multiple 1st round picks plus prospects in a trade.

3 x 2023 first round picks or bust.
The Flames have a bunch of stellar deadline day bait too....I'd like to see them get 6+ 1st round 2023 draft picks. Move Toffoli, Coleman, Tanev, Lindholm, Zadorov, Markstrom, and Backlund.
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Oh god, they aren’t going to try a hockey trade and try to stay competitive are they? So dumb.
That's what I would bet on.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:41 PM   #552
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If they're getting lowballed (ie St. Louis taking anyone of value off the table) would rather Flames take the arbitrator's decision then trade him now. Make him play for the Flames until a team pays the price. Or what Burke did with Cammalleri. Rather just not trade a guy at all then give him up for scraps and let teams know you can be had. Plus he doesn't actually have a NTC. St. Louis won't necessarily have the best deal at the trade deadline. Maybe you make a March trade with Ottawa and suddenly Matthew likes playing with his brother.

Basically I want to screw St. Louis.
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So with those 5 teams: St Louis, Dallas, Florida,
Vegas and Nashville.

Tkachuk for Sam Bennett! Lol.

Ok jokes aside. St Louis I feel for Calgary makes the most sense. I hope he doesn’t go to Vegas.
Eichel and Tkachuk would be at each other's throats. Could be fun to watch.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:42 PM   #554
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Francis suggesting NYR or LA as good fits.
LA would be hilarious. He can room with Drew D. Don't see it though - don't like him in-division. Also don't like the players they'd have to dump on Calgary.
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So with those 5 teams: St Louis, Dallas, Florida,
Vegas and Nashville.

Tkachuk for Sam Bennett! Lol.

Ok jokes aside. St Louis I feel for Calgary makes the most sense. I hope he doesn’t go to Vegas.
If the Flames are going to get a bad deal I hope he goes to Vegas. Wouldn’t mind seeing them dominate the Pacific for the next 3 years.
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Would you guys trade Tkachuk for Lafrenieire or Byfield in a 1 for 1 deal?
Not Lafrenieire for me
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Trade out east. We don't need a constant reminder how we lost him
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Twitter reaction tells me that just about every fan base out there wants their team to take a run at a deal for Tkachuk.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:44 PM   #559
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LA would be hilarious. He can room with Drew D. Don't see it though - don't like him in-division. Also don't like the players they'd have to dump on Calgary.
La has one of the best prospect base/young players in the league. Calgary could do well there with a trade.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:45 PM   #560
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Nope, if they added an unprotected 1st yes potentially,

Lafreniere and one of Kakko/Lundkvist/1st it is then
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