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Strange Brew · 07-20-2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mile

I'm just glad we didn't give the 'C' to him or Gaudreau.

At least we know for sure the next captain will be someone who wants to be here.

I suspect it was offered to both of them.

This team better have a huge effing chip on their shoulder next year.

Jiri Hrdina · 07-20-2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Monahammer

The senators just signed Brady to an 8 year contract last year. There are clearly ways to keep these players happy in Canada, apparently Calgary/ Calgary Flames Ownership and Management have absolutely no idea what these things are, but there are clearly ways.

Man these simplistic takes tire me.
Each player is different. Just because Brady signed doesn't mean Johnny was going to or Matthew was.

Wallow away I guess.

Jordan! · 07-20-2022, 01:06 PM

Flames to Houston E4

Manhattanboy · 07-20-2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Meh I'm bored of this current edition of the team. I'm excited for some change and what happens next.
As Miller said, do we really think this team was going to win a cup with 20M+ tied up in Tkachuk and Johnny?
I'm ready for something new.

Really? I thought last season was the most fun in years, particularly post Covid.

Had things aligned differently we would have been in the WCF.

Geeoff · 07-20-2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CSharp

Hopefully, in the following order:

Markstrom
Hanifin
Lucic
Monahan

I think we should keep Monahan and hope he can bounce back. What do we have to lose? Right now he has negative value.

Jiri Hrdina · 07-20-2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I suspect it was offered to both of them.

This team better have a huge effing chip on their shoulder next year.

Or don't and tank for a high pick

GioforPM · 07-20-2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by littlereddevil

It's worth pointing out that on the list of Tkachuk's preferred teams to sign with long-term, with the exception of St. Louis, all of those teams are located where there's no state tax.

So besides the fact that Tkachuk would be willing to play for his old man's former team, this really looks to be about Matthew chasing more money.

Sucks to be a small Canadian market. If I were Murray Edwards I'd be pushing hard during the next CBA negotiations to get a fairer deal for Canadian teams.

No wonder a Canadian team hasn't won the Cup in nearly 30 years. We struggle to keep our stars. Only a matter of time until we see the Canucks, Jets, Oilers and Senators lose their stars.

This seems true.

CroCop · 07-20-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CSharp

Hopefully, in the following order:

Markstrom
Hanifin
Lucic
Monahan

And unfortunately Sutter. He came here to win. Retirement?

Jiri Hrdina · 07-20-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Really? I thought last season was the most fun in years, particularly post Covid.

Had things aligned differently we would have been in the WCF.

It was for sure.
But I was still bored of the core.
I'm core bored.
And I didn't have much confidence they could get out of the West. I felt they matched up poorly against the Oilers and that the Avs were superior.

Mathgod · 07-20-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Like I said in the other thread, I’m in the rebuild camp, so this is great.

Matthew wasn’t going to take this team to new heights or anything like that, so trading him now at his highest peak value could be a blessing in disguise. The Flames should honestly think about trading Lindholm and Markstrom too while they’re at it.

This team is going no where next season, so why not tank for Bedard and jumpstart the next core ASAP rather than drag your heels like the Iggy era ended up.

With Darryl here, don't count on any rebuild.

Burning Beard · 07-20-2022, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Meh I'm bored of this current edition of the team. I'm excited for some change and what happens next.
As Miller said, do we really think this team was going to win a cup with 20M+ tied up in Tkachuk and Johnny?
I'm ready for something new.

I agree. I'm hoping for more of a retool than a burn it all down rebuild though but either way I'm on board for change.

Macman · 07-20-2022, 01:08 PM

Well this sucks, what’s going on in the Flames organization?
I also wonder if Sutter will be back.
Is the team on the verge of moving? Losing your top players in one off season has to be unprecedented.

At least we’ll get something in return.

djsFlames · 07-20-2022, 01:08 PM

It is what it is. Use this to get an influx of young players to set you up.

Then sign guys that want to play here.

Its a good learning experience for this management group to never fall into this trap again.

#### American players like this though. Thanks for the heads up Chucky.

Jbo · 07-20-2022, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan!

Flames to Houston E4

Look at the AZ fan everyone! His franchise is a joke
But his chance to throw rocks has come!

mile · 07-20-2022, 01:08 PM

I wonder if Sutter retires again or moves to an advisor role. Leave them with no choice.

Whether it's rebuild or retool, I hope they build their forward group at the centre position.

FlameyMcFlameFace · 07-20-2022, 01:08 PM

Lindy can go at the deadline for an awesome package. He should be a great addition to a team making a run

Flames1217 · 07-20-2022, 01:08 PM

Wooooowwwwwww

This off-season sucks

rhino · 07-20-2022, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jlh2640

Here is my guess. American kid. Covid times. And the flames likely low balled him. What a disaster

Rumoured 11 million for 8 years

GioforPM · 07-20-2022, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Really? I thought last season was the most fun in years, particularly post Covid.

Had things aligned differently we would have been in the WCF.

It was. But with those two contracts, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to sustain it. They might decline (certainly there's no real upward mobility possible), but moreover, you probably were losing Mangiapane, Kylington, you have to replace Gudbranson already, you're going to have to pay some of the younger guys in a year or two.

CaptainYooh · 07-20-2022, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

...
The Flames are not a destination right now. The team doesn't look competitive, they are in a less desirable market for several reasons, and they have an old building.

There is some reality to all that. Some of it the GM is accountable for, some of it owners are, and some of it is outside their control. ...

This is a pretty sober and accurate assessment of where things are today. Worse, none of it can be easily fixed/changed. I wouldn't be shocked if the next thing we hear is "the team's moving to US" announcement. Heartbroken – yes, but not shocked.