07-20-2022, 10:04 AM
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#1021
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Yeah when I looked at a Kyrou trade I had to add a salary from STL. ROR is the only large salary without an NTC. Plus it's only a one year comittment. Plus he's still good. Would the Flames have to add to get Kyrou/ROR/Neighbors? Throw in Dube or Val?
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Would ROR have to go on waivers? LOL
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07-20-2022, 10:17 AM
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#1022
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Franchise Player
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I think it’s time to start treating Americans just like Russians at the draft. Flight risk.
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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07-20-2022, 10:28 AM
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#1023
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by mile
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I honestly think that is the plan and wouldn't be surprised to see it get done. People are talking about a trade as if that is the goal here, but I really think it is plan B and the main focus is still on signing him.
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07-20-2022, 10:31 AM
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#1024
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Calgary
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IMO signing Tkachuk to 4+ years should be first priority.
If that extension seems unlikely then if I’m GMBT I move him for the best possible package.
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07-20-2022, 10:39 AM
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#1025
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bonavista, Newfoundland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Yeah when I looked at a Kyrou trade I had to add a salary from STL. ROR is the only large salary without an NTC. Plus it's only a one year comittment. Plus he's still good. Would the Flames have to add to get Kyrou/ROR/Neighbors? Throw in Dube or Val?
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I can’t see Dube, Kyrou, or any other member of the 2018 WJH team being involved in trades until the HC/NHL investigations are completed.
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07-20-2022, 10:41 AM
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#1026
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by socalwingfan
I do, replaced my Bennett jersey which replaced my Phaneuf jersey  |
There is a reason I don't get names or numbers on my jerseys anymore. I was thinking about a Gudbranson jersey for a minute or two last season. Bullet Dodged
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07-20-2022, 10:52 AM
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#1027
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#1 Goaltender
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I’m in rebuild camp, so I wouldn’t be too sad if Tkachuk was traded for futures. His performance in the playoffs was supremely disappointing and paying him for a career year that he will not match seems like a terrible idea. I could easily see another repeat of the awful 2021 season he had when when he lined up with mostly Lindholm and Dube.
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07-20-2022, 11:00 AM
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#1028
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Murph
I can’t see Dube, Kyrou, or any other member of the 2018 WJH team being involved in trades until the HC/NHL investigations are completed.
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Kyrou wasn't even there so I don't think it applies to him.
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07-20-2022, 11:08 AM
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#1029
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by BlindMilwaukee
IMO signing Tkachuk to 4+ years should be first priority.
If that extension seems unlikely then if I’m GMBT I move him for the best possible package.
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It's 8 years or trade in my eyes. Anything else is the wrong path in my eyes.
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07-20-2022, 11:22 AM
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#1030
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
It's 8 years or trade in my eyes. Anything else is the wrong path in my eyes.
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I wouldn't mind 5-6 personally. Gives the rest of the core another kick at the can and then can re-assess
Last edited by Bonded; 07-20-2022 at 11:27 AM.
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07-20-2022, 11:25 AM
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#1031
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Kyrou wasn't even there so I don't think it applies to him.
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If anything we should be more concerned about Dube. He hasn’t released a statement of non involvement yet.
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07-20-2022, 11:26 AM
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#1032
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
It's 8 years or trade in my eyes. Anything else is the wrong path in my eyes.
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5-6 would seem to be ideal for the team. The less years you have the guy in his 30s the better.
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07-20-2022, 11:28 AM
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#1033
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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It's probably just the general feel of doom & gloom around the team but at this point I'd rather we just trade Tkachuk and start towards building around a new core.
Maybe it's overdramatic but I don't think the Flames go anywhere anytime soon with Tkachuk as our highest paid player.
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07-20-2022, 11:45 AM
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#1034
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Everyone is talking NJ and St Louis as the two teams most likely calling and I agree but my darkhorse team for trading for Tkachuk is Toronto. Dubas is under big pressure and the media around here says he wants to make one more big move for the upcoming season. I think Tkachuk would be open to signing a long term deal there, he is close with Matthews from the US program and Marner from London. Nylander is the obvious main piece coming back as he has never quite fit in there and the fan base has kind of soured in him, I am not sure why, great player. He would fit in nicely with our Swedish mafia here. As for other pieces I have no idea. They can't seem to sign Sandin, he would look good in our blueline. The Leafs are right up against the cap so not sure exactly what else comes cap dump wise but don't count Toronto out if Tkachuk is traded.
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God, please no more talk of trades between Calgary and TO. Every time there's a trade between the two clubs, Calgary gets the over-aged crap while the they get the best and wins the trade by a long shot. Flames don't need to be boot-####ed again multiple times, especially by the same useless team that's located in the "center of this world".
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07-20-2022, 11:46 AM
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#1035
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
If anything we should be more concerned about Dube. He hasn’t released a statement of non involvement yet.
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That's fine, if there's something to be added, there's some other equivalents.
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07-20-2022, 11:48 AM
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#1036
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
It's 8 years or trade in my eyes. Anything else is the wrong path in my eyes.
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I would do 6 and wouldn't even blink.
That would walk him into UFA with his brother and I would totally understand that pull.
But wouldn't want to do another shorter multi-year deal.
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07-20-2022, 11:49 AM
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#1037
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by mile
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Good
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07-20-2022, 11:53 AM
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#1038
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
It's 8 years or trade in my eyes. Anything else is the wrong path in my eyes.
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Honestly it's impossible for us to say without knowing what the actual trades being offered are.
If the best offer is Tarasenko + 1st (just an example) and the option is also on the table for something like a 3 or 4 year x $9.5M contract...then you should sign him and re-visit a trade in a year or two.
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07-20-2022, 11:58 AM
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#1039
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Franchise Player
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ROR would be an amazing "cap dump" guy is still a player... obviously I don't want him as the main guy but Sutter/ROR would be something.
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07-20-2022, 12:02 PM
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#1040
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Honestly it's impossible for us to say without knowing what the actual trades being offered are.
If the best offer is Tarasenko + 1st (just an example) and the option is also on the table for something like a 3 or 4 year x $9.5M contract...then you should sign him and re-visit a trade in a year or two.
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Yeah exactly
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