At least when Tavares did his backstabbing he got a good deal out of it. Gaudreau now lives in Columbus on a team that missed playoffs by 20 points where he can’t even name a center
It’s pretty obvious to me that he botched this, made a ton of enemies, and is now in full fledged damage control mode
And this is the truth, I promise: I cherished the time I spent in Calgary. For a long time, Meredith and I saw our future there. We wanted to re-sign last summer. We were looking at homes to start a family. But it just didn’t work out and we thought this summer might be different
Folks seem split on Treliving and if he managed this correctly. I wonder what the offer was last summer. Mid 7's would have been reasonable given production until that point. Anything lower?
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I'm still of the belief we wouldn't have won a cup with John.
The deeper into the playoffs , the more at stake the harder the game gets .
Guys take liberties, cheap shots, slashes etc and Johhny couldn't handle it.
I don't remember seeing this from Loob, Mullen, Fleury..all smaller players before Johhny that learned how to fight through all of that to overcome anything thrown at them.
Aside from that his game needed allot more work and I'm severely doubtful he becomes better in Columbus.
Regardless. He gone. The longer we sit and over think the longer we stay stuck spinning our wheelers wondering what if?
Let's move on and do something constructive with our time.
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How exactly do you think ghostwriting works? It's done via interview, the writer talks for a while with the player, get's their story and then writes it. It's not untrue, it's just their ideas put into better verbiage.
Why would he want to make the team he is going to give up assets to get him? That would just make his future team worse
Why would Iggy waive his NTC and not walk out on the Flames on the next free agency? Between Gaudreau and the Flames, it could've been a two way street, yet it all came down to Johnny. What Iggy gave back for the Flames, it was always giving back to some extent. Even though what the Flame got back was crap, you can blame that on management. Sure, you can still blame Tre taking all the risk for not re-signing Gaudreau the year earlier or went full in on the contract extension leading up to Johnny's decision, but my argument is that Johnny, himself, could've made his decision way sooner (and I think it was likely made when his dad had the heart-attack and then his marriage last year). His actions pretty much costed the Flames future. Some of the fallout is happening right now but no one knows how bad it's gonna be going forward. Future is definitely uncertain for the Flames for what happened. If Johnny's rights were traded and the Flames at least got something back, I think most fans would've accepted this with a good fairwell and end of discussion. Legacy of Johnny as a Flames will always be tainted.
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Folks seem split on Treliving and if he managed this correctly. I wonder what the offer was last summer. Mid 7's would have been reasonable given production until that point. Anything lower?
There's an 8x8 rumour out there.
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I doubt even that. I think maybe he sat and talked with the writer. A Kirstie Maclellan deal.
The guy has a comms degree from Boston College, a pretty decent school, I'm sure he's more than capable of writing that letter.
Folks, including me, are chapped he left in the way he did but let's not pretend that someone with a university degree can't write.
For people saying it's a PR puff piece, what benefit does he get from putting that out unless he has a genuine desire to get his version out there? To avoid getting booed once per season? That doesn't really make very much sense to me - if he really didn't care about the city or the team he could have just faded away, but he did opt to write something.
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Absolutely agreed. I think for a guy that seems fairly unassuming and quiet this was one of those giant life decisions that didn't have a perfect answer and like a lot of people would with 100 different voices in their ears, he waffled for too long and might've even panicked a bit. He said himself yesterday on Chiclets that he didn't enjoy any of the process and doesn't want to do free agency again.
He pretty much jumped on the largest offer after one day. He had no stomach for the uncertainty. I'd bet Gross tried to talk him into getting a bidding war between NJD and CBJ but he was tired of it.
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As someone who's done a lot of corporate communications and has had to ghost write "in the voice" of executives and public figures, I think this is well done.
The way it usually works is, you spend some time with the person, you get a feel for their voice and tone. As a stakeholder group you identify the key points you want to make, and hone in on the specific feelings and takeaways you want your audience to come away with. You ideally get the client to write a draft as they would say it, then you pull out the lines and phrases that capture their character, and then you write your own draft to the agreed upon outline incorporating as much of their authentic voice as you can. Then iterate as much as you can in the allowed timeframe.
Yes, it's artificial in a way, but all writing is artificial. Even if someone is writing on their own, they should be writing multiple drafts based on a plan and working towards a set of communication goals. When you don't do that –when you just bang out a single draft without review or revision and then put it out into the world – is when you have people get in trouble with hitting the wrong tone, being misunderstood. All the stuff that Johnny's been getting hammered for over the last week. So I feel like as a piece of "crisis comms," this is pretty successful.
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At least when Tavares did his backstabbing he got a good deal out of it. Gaudreau now lives in Columbus on a team that missed playoffs by 20 points where he can’t even name a center
It’s pretty obvious to me that he botched this, made a ton of enemies, and is now in full fledged damage control mode
Yeah, Columbus has better centre depth than the Flames going forward. Johnson and Sillinger will be a better duo than Lindholm/Backlund pretty quickly.
The idea that the Flames are some great team and Columbus is rubbish...Columbus is better situated for future success than the Flames are.
We are Columbus, just a few years ago. The acquired Duchene etc. for a push, we acquired Toffoli. They lost Panarin, we lost Gaudreau.
Dubois wanted out - they got Laine, and sucked.
Tkachuk wants out - we're getting....?
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I doubt even that. I think maybe he sat and talked with the writer. A Kirstie Maclellan deal.
Its pretty well-written so I expect this is correct. Doesn't mean the substance is insincere though.
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He was not having a kid last summer. I suspect his mind was made up last summer, sign in Calgary. Then a deal did not get done and he knew he was becoming a father and Calgary's position became more tenuous. If only there was a way to have some stats on the number of people who become parents within 12-18 months of their wedding one could have maybe predicted this event that could have changed Gaudreau's perspective.
If people want to believe it’s a PR piece of his agent wrote it, I think that’s a pretty sad way to look at life. He didn’t have to do publish this or allow it to be so vulnerable. This was a mess but life is messy and sometimes you don’t know what you think you want as opposed to what you actually want until it’s staring at you in the face.
It sucks for us that it happened this way but I can understand how he found himself in that position. 7-8 is a long time to have your kid grow up away from grandparents, not see your nieces and nephews grow up, or spend time with your aging family. I’m sure it really was down to the wire with John and eventually the circumstances of his departure won’t matter.
Thanks for 8 great years, Johnny Hockey.
Must be a pretty sad life if jokes make you this upset and have that kind of negative outlook about other people.
