2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Big deal. He is a scoring winger compared to a 100+ young power forward who is the local boy. If the Blues could get Tkachuk straight up for Kyrou they would be running to the fax machine. I like Kyrou a lot but he doesn't have the tool box of Tkachuk nor the value.

Kyrou had as many playoff goals this past year as Tkachuk has in his career. And he didn't have a guy like Gaudreau playing with him

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by timbit

You absolutely allow the interested teams to make their best offer....and then choose to deny or accept or negotiate further on their offer.

You do NOT set your price!

That is poor negotiating practice.

That's not how it works when it comes to a star like Tkachuk. GM's do this all the time, and yes-you take the best offer within those parameters that you set. Or, you can settle for a first, Hanowski, and Agostino.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by timbit

You absolutely allow the interested teams to make their best offer....and then choose to deny or accept or negotiate further on their offer.

You do NOT set your price!

That is poor negotiating practice.

Considering this situation is a but time sensitive you get the best deal you can get and get it done ASAP

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Sandman

That's not how it works when it comes to a star like Tkachuk. GM's do this all the time, and yes-you take the best offer within those parameters that you set. Or, you can settle for a first, Hanowski, and Agostino.

Glad you’re not negotiating for the Flames.

35 year old worn out players get best offers of a first, Hanowski, and Agostino.

24 year old 100 point players get a tad more.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by timbit

Glad you’re not negotiating for the Flames.

35 year old players worn out players get best offers of a first, Hanowski, and Agostino.

24 year old 100 point players get a tad more.

Exactly.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Exactly.

Good...glad you recognize the contrast.

[memphusk]

Yeah you make it clear that there are many teams looking for his services. This is a huge opportunity to hit the rebuild home run.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by timbit

Good...glad you recognize the contrast.

My post was in response to some of the proposals that had Tkachuk getting traded for older players, 1 for 1's, etc- and I said you don't accept less than those 3 assets (young roster player, prospect, and a first), especially for a 24 year old, 100 pt player. GM's are quoted all the time about setting this price for star players, this isn't something I came up with on my own.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Kyrou had as many playoff goals this past year as Tkachuk has in his career. And he didn't have a guy like Gaudreau playing with him

He had 3 more goals, wow! How many regular season goals did he have? How many points? How much can Kyrou change the game by being a total ass? How physical is he? I would be willing to make a large wager all 32 NHL GM's given the choice between the two would take Tkachuk every time. The NHL is loaded with skill wingers, how many legit 100 point power forwards are there? Add in the marketing of bringing in the hometown kid whose father is a legend there and you think they wouldn't move Kyrou for him? Think about it.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Yeah you make it clear that there are many teams looking for his services. This is a huge opportunity to hit the rebuild home run.

Are we taking cap back? Pretty hard to fit in a winger with 8 digits likely to his name.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Sandman

My post was in response to some of the proposals that had Tkachuk getting traded for older players, 1 for 1's, etc- and I said you don't accept less than those 3 assets (young roster player, prospect, and a first), especially for a 24 year old, 100 pt player. GM's are quoted all the time about setting this price for star players, this isn't something I came up with on my own.

You do except those deals if you feel they carry the most value, and or ownership has mandated you build a winner.

[Major Major]

If STL isn't giving value on Tkachuk you shop him at 25% salary to Colorado, Minnesota, Dallas and Nashville. See if that changes their tone.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by timbit

Glad you’re not negotiating for the Flames.

35 year old worn out players get best offers of a first, Hanowski, and Agostino.

24 year old 100 point players get a tad more.

Especially if there’s more than one team in the running.

[Heavy Jack]

There’s no contract currently to salary retain 25 % of; Flames need to find a suitor that knows they’ll be able to extend Tkachuk to an 8 year deal and there should be a good amount of teams wanting that.

Part of me wants to trade Tkachuk to Columbus because I feel him and Johnny really didn’t like each other. It would be hilarious if we could get Liane + unprotected 1st + Nyquist (cap dump) + prospect

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Major Major

If STL isn't giving value on Tkachuk you shop him at 25% salary to Colorado, Minnesota, Dallas and Nashville. See if that changes their tone.

25% of what salary? He'd have to be signed first.

Heavy Jack beat me to it.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Especially if there’s more than one team in the running.

You would think it would be a monster package compared to the Iginla deal. Jarome made it clear he would only go to one team. Have to think anything less than an absolute stud piece under the age of 25, multiple first round picks and a prospect would be a fail this time.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

25% of what salary? He'd have to be signed first.

Heavy Jack beat me to it.

Obviously waiting for the arbitrated contract. You could start having those conversations now though as we know about what that number will look like.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

There’s no contract currently to salary retain 25 % of; Flames need to find a suitor that knows they’ll be able to extend Tkachuk to an 8 year deal and there should be a good amount of teams wanting that.

Part of me wants to trade Tkachuk to Columbus because I feel him and Johnny really didn’t like each other. It would be hilarious if we could get Liane + unprotected 1st + Nyquist (cap dump) + prospect

I meant retaining 75% through a third party.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

You would think it would be a monster package compared to the Iginla deal. Jarome made it clear he would only go to one team. Have to think anything less than an absolute stud piece under the age of 25, multiple first round picks and a prospect would be a fail this time.

Prepare to be disappointed

[Flames_F.T.W]

It's a little surprising how quiet things have been around Tkachuk since the announcement of team elected arbitration. No insiders tweeting about it, not much from the team or his agent.