[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million)

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I watch that Tim and Sid interview and to me it really does feel genuine that this decision tore him apart.

He almost starts to tear up every time he has to talk about Calgary.

I think he thought this is what was best for his family from a logical perspective, but it certainly doesn’t feel like this is what he wanted from an emotional perspective.

I do find it interesting that he mentioned his mom and his wife in terms of who helped make the decision. I think we needed Guy in the room, feel like he would have been a booster for Calgary and a chance to run it back next year.

Who knows. Maybe Guy was involved initially and saw that he was the only one really putting the Calgary option up as one that needs to be strongly considered, and wasn't about to fight that hard for it with his wife and daughter in law when his own son wasn't going to and peaced out.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by browna

Gaudreau preferred to play hockey here. Preferred to live in Philly.
When Philly was finally out on him, option c, for now.

Probably the worst possible timing for making this life altering decision with a child on the way. If this was next year or two years he and the wife would've adapted to life with a child in Calgary already with a 10 month old (or whatever age) here already, or if they were still a year or so from having a child, or it was a second child etc, Johnny could've made Calgary work and convinced the wife of that... but with her in the stages of pregnancy with a first child and the element of the unknown about what will happen and the support she thinks she may need, she was probably pretty firm even though Johnny would've preferred to have stayed here, thus the last minute pull out.

Ideally he'd prefer to be closer to his parents but they made the Calgary situation work for 8y so far.

Yeah the timing was really bad in the end. Had say, Johnny’s wedding happened this offseason instead of last offseason, I could see Meredith the fiance giving the ok. But after living here almost a year, experiencing our winter, with a baby on the way, her opinion now as the wife probably changed which is totally understandable.

I bet Johnny and his parents were perfectly fine with him coming back, they’re local celebrities here and have been use to this life for 8 years now. Meredith on the other hand saw what, only 8 months here? The only thing I could find on her Twitter was a tweet asking her friend to visit her with a bit of a veiled shot at Calgary’s temperature back in February.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Meh, I take not even thinly veiled shots at Calgary weather on the daily. LOL That's a giant nothing burger

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I watch that Tim and Sid interview and to me it really does feel genuine that this decision tore him apart.

He almost starts to tear up every time he has to talk about Calgary.

I think he thought this is what was best for his family from a logical perspective, but it certainly doesn’t feel like this is what he wanted from an emotional perspective.

I do find it interesting that he mentioned his mom and his wife in terms of who helped make the decision. I think we needed Guy in the room, feel like he would have been a booster for Calgary and a chance to run it back next year.

Originally Posted by activeStick

Who knows. Maybe Guy was involved initially and saw that he was the only one really putting the Calgary option up as one that needs to be strongly considered, and wasn't about to fight that hard for it with his wife and daughter in law when his own son wasn't going to and peaced out.

I agree, I think Guy do enjoy the city, I mean the last time he visited this past playoff run, he played shinny with local folks.



When Gaudreau mentioned it's his wife and mom helped make the decision, may be Meredith wants to move and mom told him the "happy wife makes happy life"?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I agree, I think Guy do enjoy the city, I mean the last time he visited this past playoff run, he played shinny with local folks.



When Gaudreau mentioned it's his wife and mom helped make the decision, may be Meredith wants to move and mom told him the "happy wife makes happy life"?

put Guy though the boards too

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by dino7c

put Guy though the boards too

Nah, I like Guy. I enjoy twitter convo with Jane as well, so I like her as well.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

The fact CP is on a first name basis with Johnny’s wife is creepy in and of itself.

Must be the wife
-Loser Hockey Fans

[TheChief]

Honestly, I can't blame Johnny for how this all went down.(I wont be one of those fans that is actively hating on Johnny for his decision) At the end of the day its Brads fault for letting it get to this point. Johnny had every right to go UFA and pick and choose wherever he wanted to go. In saying that it still hurts to lose our offensive catalyst..Not sure where that is going to come from next year, but we are lucky enough to have one of the best coaches in NHL history that is known for getting more out of less.

[Psytic]

I don’t think I’ll be booing him. Probably hurts more for them to know what they lost, than to reinforce that it was a good idea. Would be even better if Chucky stays and the Flames make the playoffs multiple years in a row and Columbus doesn’t.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by TheChief

Honestly, I can't blame Johnny for how this all went down.(I wont be one of those fans that is actively hating on Johnny for his decision) At the end of the day its Brads fault for letting it get to this point. Johnny had every right to go UFA and pick and choose wherever he wanted to go. In saying that it still hurts to lose our offensive catalyst..Not sure where that is going to come from next year, but we are lucky enough to have one of the best coaches in NHL history that is known for getting more out of less.

I agree.

If Johnny pulled the rug out from an agreement in the final days, yeah that sucks for Treliving who put a lot of myopic hope in re-signing him. But the bigger picture is that everyone ought to have realized that JG was a flight risk for a while. All the dots were there to connect. He was obviously not committed to re-signing for a long time. Whatever happened in those final weeks after the season ended is a moot point when Treliving had the power to not allow it to get there in the first place.

[TheChief]

Brad should have known fellow Flames faithful. Its his job to know, like its the the job of the mail man to deliver your mail... Unreal that he was living on a prayer going into the last hour of negotiations with 13. Its even more unreal the the most important contract in team history was allowed to get to that point.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I agree.

If Johnny pulled the rug out from an agreement in the final days, yeah that sucks for Treliving who put a lot of myopic hope in re-signing him. But the bigger picture is that everyone ought to have realized that JG was a flight risk for a while..

The Flames did realize he was a flight risk. So did the other 31 teams.

I think the whole league expected him to go to Philadelphia if he wasn't staying long-term in Calgary, though they probably had different opinions of the odds on that choice. If he had been traded to any other team, they would have been looking at him as a rental, figuring he would end up as a Flyer. And the Flyers had no motive to trade for him, since they weren't going anywhere last season and knew they could get him this summer without giving up any assets.

I don't think anyone expected the scenario that actually played out. The hockey media, pundits, GMs, fans all over the league, all had the same reaction: ‘Columbus? But why?!’

One year of a high-priced winger who just had two poor seasons is not the hottest commodity. I'm quite sure the Flames received offers, and decided that none of them were worth as much as keeping Gaudreau as an own rental. They may have been right or wrong in that; we'll never know without seeing what the offers were. But they did get his career season, a first-place finish in the division, and what matters still more, bums on seats.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheChief

Brad should have known fellow Flames faithful. Its his job to know, like its the the job of the mail man to deliver your mail... Unreal that he was living on a prayer going into the last hour of negotiations with 13.

So no matter what secrets a player has Treliving has to know. If Johnny repeatedly says I want to stay as long as you pay me decently” Treliving has to know that’s a lie?

[TheChief]

^ yes. Thats what his job is. Sounds like he didn't know Johnny.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by TheChief

^ yes. Thats what his job is. Sounds like he didn't know Johnny.

His job is to read the minds of all the people who work for him?

Please list all the NHL GMs who have telepathy. Or, for that matter, any human being who has telepathy.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Psytic

I don’t think I’ll be booing him. Probably hurts more for them to know what they lost, than to reinforce that it was a good idea. Would be even better if Chucky stays and the Flames make the playoffs multiple years in a row and Columbus doesn’t.

well that shouldn't be an issue

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

So no matter what secrets a player has Treliving has to know. If Johnny repeatedly says I want to stay as long as you pay me decently” Treliving has to know that’s a lie?

He doesn't need to "know" it, he just needs to factor it into his risk calculations. Which I bet he did.

Probably his odds were wrong / he was too optimistic; maybe he knew this was a strong possibility all along, but has been putting a different public spin on it.

[cral12]

Of course we all know this goes well beyond the money - sad but interesting:

"A deeper look at financial differences between the Flames and Blue Jackets contracts for Gaudreau"

https://thewincolumn.ca/2022/07/16/a...-for-gaudreau/

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by cral12

Of course we all know this goes well beyond the money - sad but interesting:

"A deeper look at financial differences between the Flames and Blue Jackets contracts for Gaudreau"

https://thewincolumn.ca/2022/07/16/a...-for-gaudreau/

The way people talk, I just assumed that taxes were better everywhere in the U.S. compared to anywhere in Canada. I guess not.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Must be the wife
-Loser Hockey Fans

No, it’s just reality. It wouldn’t be the first time a hockey wife influenced their husband on where to go. I’m not even mad, I completely understand.

The decision for Johnny to sign in Columbus clearly wasn’t hockey related/motivated. Otherwise, why else would any hockey player choose less money, or choose to play on a non playoff team instead of a 50 win division winner? Or choose to leave the best line in hockey? Or choose to abandon his friends and teammates he’s made here over the years.

None of if makes any sense which completely explains his interview where he looked like a complete deer in the headlights. He himself looked shocked that he had just signed in Columbus. To me, it just felt very much like a guy who was coerced to doing something that he didn’t really want to do and that’s why he had no real answers to any of the questions he was asked.