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Old 07-13-2022, 09:16 AM   #881
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Carpenter = good a building things.

Chef = good at cooking things.

Farmer = good a growing things.

Cab Driver = weaves all over the road has zero awareness of their surroundings, couldn't even get a GDL license with their skills.

How is it, that people that log a couple hundred thousand KMS a year behind the wheel of an automobile, are some of the worst drivers on the road?
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Cab Driver = weaves all over the road has zero awareness of their surroundings, couldn't even get a GDL license with their skills.

How is it, that people that log a couple hundred thousand KMS a year behind the wheel of an automobile, are some of the worst drivers on the road?
Ehhh, you could argue that a cab driver's job is to get their passengers from point A to point B as quickly as possible, so technically a good 'cab driver' and a bad driver are not mutually exclusive so long as the passenger gets where they're going quickly.

We were at the Cowboys Casino a couple months ago and a concert was getting out from the Saddledome. Cabs were at a premium, and we wanted to go from the casino to 10 Ave @ 7 Street SW. This one cabbie was sitting there waiting for his pickup, and we asked if he would take us. He said he had a fare he was supposed to pick-up, however for $30 cash he would get us there faster than any cab driver on the planet (so he could still grab his assigned fare). We said what the hell and agreed.

Two minutes. Two minutes door-to-door in thick-ass post-Dome event traffic. This guy cut through parking lots (including the barricaded one on 12 Ave), back lanes, slalomed in and out of the parked car lane and between traffic. The guy was basically The Hire:


If the yardstick is "obeys the rules of the road", yeah, crap driver. If the yardstick is "got me where I was going fast and didn't maim or kill me", five stars.
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I find most of them doddle around way under the speed limit and choose questionable routes, so no, not good at their one job.
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Carpenter = good a building things.

Chef = good at cooking things.

Farmer = good a growing things.

Cab Driver = weaves all over the road has zero awareness of their surroundings, couldn't even get a GDL license with their skills.

How is it, that people that log a couple hundred thousand KMS a year behind the wheel of an automobile, are some of the worst drivers on the road?
As with most things, it's all about the financial incentives of the job. If a job rewards high-quality work, those who do high-quality work will be the most successful. If a job rewards speed above all else, those who do the job quickly will be the most successful.

For cab drivers, their pay is based on distance travelled, not on the time a trip takes or customer satisfaction. If driving recklessly will allow you to take a couple more fares per shift, that's the incentive.


Also, with things like a carpenter or chef, you have some choice. You can shop around, look at previous work, read reviews or listen to testimonials. You also have a choice of cheaper, faster, lower quality or better quality, but slower and more expensive.

On the other hand, a cab is a cab. You get in the first one to show up. Repeat business isn't really a concern and as long as you get to your destination without incident, you're not going to complain.
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As with most things, it's all about the financial incentives of the job. If a job rewards high-quality work, those who do high-quality work will be the most successful. If a job rewards speed above all else, those who do the job quickly will be the most successful.

For cab drivers, their pay is based on distance travelled, not on the time a trip takes or customer satisfaction. If driving recklessly will allow you to take a couple more fares per shift, that's the incentive.


Also, with things like a carpenter or chef, you have some choice. You can shop around, look at previous work, read reviews or listen to testimonials. You also have a choice of cheaper, faster, lower quality or better quality, but slower and more expensive.

On the other hand, a cab is a cab. You get in the first one to show up. Repeat business isn't really a concern and as long as you get to your destination without incident, you're not going to complain.
My Gear grinder isn't with the distance, route or speed. It's the basics, like staying between the lines, signaling, maintaining a consistent speed, the actual skills of driving. The physical aspects and I guess you'd call the 'dexterity' of it.

For example someone who is a professional marathoner, has great running technique. Some who welds professionally, will have great welding technique. At least over Joe Blow weekend runner or welder.

I've seen first week drivers that can point a car down the road better than most these 'professional' drivers. Weirdly, most Uber drivers I have used, are typically excellent drivers. Cabs for some reason, I don't think I've ever been in one with a quality driver.
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My Gear grinder isn't with the distance, route or speed. It's the basics, like staying between the lines, signaling, maintaining a consistent speed, the actual skills of driving. The physical aspects and I guess you'd call the 'dexterity' of it.

For example someone who is a professional marathoner, has great running technique. Some who welds professionally, will have great welding technique. At least over Joe Blow weekend runner or welder.
Neither of those are very good comparisons.

A marathon runner who cheats to win will get disqualified. Technique to ensure a winning balance of speed and endurance is what will win the day. Full-on speed will tire the runner out, full-on endurance preservation is called 'walking' and neither is winning you any marathons.

A welder that doesn't have great welding technique will have welds that look like sh-t because technique is part and parcel to the finished product, it is what makes them a good welder.

A cab driver who 'cheats to win' by breaking the law to get a customer to their destination faster only fails in their job if they get pulled over or crash and the customer is delayed because of it. Ranking a cab driver's performance by obeying traffic laws ignores that the goal of their job isn't to be a model driver.

I get it, they suck ass to share the road with. But they're not being compensated because they obeyed all the traffic laws and weren't a dickhole in traffic.
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Telus. Christ on a mothereffing cactus, why is their customer service so crap? An hour at this already and if the smooth brain I'm talking to would just listen/read the answers to the question he posed, maybe it would go a little more quickly.

So close to cutting the cord with everything except internet, going back to Shaw & just streaming everything.
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So close to cutting the cord with everything except internet, going back to Shaw & just streaming everything.
I haven’t regretted this once in 10 years.
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I haven’t regretted this once in 10 years.
As long as we can still watch our favorite shows, I'm all in. I just want my faves.

Telus support is utter crap today. I spent over an hour, almost 90 minutes, between waiting to speak to someone and then speaking to a rep who can't help me, transfers me to someone who allegedly can, who assures me the issue is fixed. Issue is most decidedly not fixed yet, an hour later, so back to chat I go. Connected with chat, give info required, am told they need a couple minutes to look at things, chat is ended/dropped. I fricking give up. Will be phoning Shaw in the morning.
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Neither of those are very good comparisons.

A marathon runner who cheats to win will get disqualified. Technique to ensure a winning balance of speed and endurance is what will win the day. Full-on speed will tire the runner out, full-on endurance preservation is called 'walking' and neither is winning you any marathons.

A welder that doesn't have great welding technique will have welds that look like sh-t because technique is part and parcel to the finished product, it is what makes them a good welder.

A cab driver who 'cheats to win' by breaking the law to get a customer to their destination faster only fails in their job if they get pulled over or crash and the customer is delayed because of it. Ranking a cab driver's performance by obeying traffic laws ignores that the goal of their job isn't to be a model driver.

I get it, they suck ass to share the road with. But they're not being compensated because they obeyed all the traffic laws and weren't a dickhole in traffic.
Not signalling or staying in your lane or merging at 30km/h below the speed limit does not help them get their passengers to their destination faster. And they drive like crap even when their car is empty.

My job is based on getting to places quickly too, and sometimes I speed or pass on the right to do it, but I’m still courteous and competent. Taxi and Uber drivers are neither.
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Well, the trains are stopped downtown... I was trying to get to West Kerby and got on one. After a delay it started moving - "ah, they must have fixed the problem", I thought. Now we're stopped again and not moving, but this time we're no longer at a station so there's no option to... you know... get off the thing.

If you can't resume service why wouldn't you just leave the train at the ####ing station so people aren't trapped you goddamned morons?!

EDIT: Immediately after I made this post we started moving. I assume I am responsible. You're welcome, fellow train riders.
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Not signalling or staying in your lane or merging at 30km/h below the speed limit does not help them get their passengers to their destination faster. And they drive like crap even when their car is empty.

My job is based on getting to places quickly too, and sometimes I speed or pass on the right to do it, but I’m still courteous and competent. Taxi and Uber drivers are neither.
You guys need better cabbies then. Mine are always f-cking psychopaths.
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I'll never forget the one time probably about 15 years ago when I was driving behind a cab on 19 Street SE and he just stopped dead in the middle of the road. No indicators or nothing. I stop behind him and after about 25 seconds I honk the horn. Nothing so I open my door to get out and see if there's a problem he does a smokey and the bandit U-turn and flies away past me in the other direction. It was totally bizarre as as an intersection without lights was just ahead where he could have turned but he just stopped in the middle of the road like that was totally fine and normal thing to do.
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our company switched to a 30 character minimum password, 30! No Upper case or special characters or numbers or anything, just 30.

and if I'm remoting in on VPN, I have to enter it 3 times. 30 characters!
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our company switched to a 30 character minimum password, 30! No Upper case or special characters or numbers or anything, just 30.

and if I'm remoting in on VPN, I have to enter it 3 times. 30 characters!
"30 character minimum password" is one character too short. Sorry, try again.
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our company switched to a 30 character minimum password, 30! No Upper case or special characters or numbers or anything, just 30.

and if I'm remoting in on VPN, I have to enter it 3 times. 30 characters!

Just use a pass-phrase. Are you allowed spaces?

I wonder how many people will just go with the alphabet or a few rows of the keyboard.

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our company switched to a 30 character minimum password, 30! No Upper case or special characters or numbers or anything, just 30.

and if I'm remoting in on VPN, I have to enter it 3 times. 30 characters!
No ascending values
No descending values
No repeating values

Find one. ‘This password has been used within 17 password updates and is invalid’
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our company switched to a 30 character minimum password, 30! No Upper case or special characters or numbers or anything, just 30.

and if I'm remoting in on VPN, I have to enter it 3 times. 30 characters!
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our company switched to a 30 character minimum password, 30! No Upper case or special characters or numbers or anything, just 30.

and if I'm remoting in on VPN, I have to enter it 3 times. 30 characters!
This is not the worst thing in the world, though I think thirty characters is a bit much. I would probably set it at twenty characters minimum so you can use something like "Thisjobcouldpaybetter" or "MycatsnameisLucipurr".

Getting rid of special characters and complexity requirements beyond prohibiting repetition (ie: no passwords like 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa' or '12345678901234567890') are a good thing. Passwords should be easy for a person to remember so you don't have people writing it on a sticky note and putting it under their keyboards, but difficult for a computer to crack and password length is so much more important than complexity in that regard.

But yeah, thirty characters is a bit long.
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