[Signing] Gaudreau to Columbus (7 x $9.75 million)

[GullFoss]

I'm reading Dom Luszczyszyn, who writes

"Johnny Gaudreau's play going into UFA was far superior to Artemi Panarin’s during his run to free agency, and he comes in nearly $2 million cheaper. It boggles the mind, especially knowing that Calgary offered $10.5 million over eight seasons."

In other words, cap adjusted, he expected Johnny to fetch $11m-$13m per season. I think that Dom Luszczyszyn is a smart guy and it's plausible Gross and Gaudreau thus expected that Johnny would also get $11m-$13m per year from some team out east. This would allow Johnny to BOTH (a) Play out east and (b) make comparable or more money than the flames offered.

BUT...the offers in the $11m-$13m range never came to fruition.

Johnny still took the highest offer available from an US Eastern Conference team as a UFA which was 7 x $9.75. No other team beat that. The islanders were at $9. The devils were between $9-$10. Columbus beat them both.

That's what happened. Johnny wanted to be out east. But they also misjudged the market. And then they made the best of a bad situation, which was Columbus for 7 years at $9.75m.


That's what happened. In hindsight, does Johnny wish he took the $10.5m x 8 from Calgary? Maybe. Maybe Calgary + $15m over 8 years is better than Columbus. But that offer was no longer on the table as of this morning because the 8th year was gone.


This is the logical explanation of what happened.

[iamca]

I like this snippet from Traikos:

“So Gaudreau turned down $15.75-million to play in Columbus rather than Calgary. And possibly more had he gone to the Devils or the Islanders.

How bizarre.

Money aside, the contract is even more perplexing when you consider what else he turned down. A chance to play in a city where he was treated as a superstar. A chance to play on a team that finished first in the Pacific Division last year. A chance to continue playing alongside Matthew Tkachuk and Elias Lindholm on what was the best line in hockey last season.

Good luck finding any of that with the Blue Jackets, a nondescript team in a college football town, which lacks a No. 1 centre and has spent its existence as a bubble team at best.

That last part should change with Gaudreau’s addition, although don’t be so sure.”


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[camm13]

Originally Posted by Weitz
Is he going to buy in Columbus? He rented a condo and lived in basically a hotel his whole time in Calgary. I don’t see that changing much for him.



He did not live in a hotel the entire time he was here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7BZCnHvdOg

I recall he kept the house after Jooris got traded, got one of his buddies from his hometown to move here and work for him/ take care of his dog before he got together with his current wife. (All said in a interview).

[NewFan]

It sounds like Johnny and his agent did panic after knowing market offer and called a team which has a most cap space.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

This entire thing is so Flames.

Also kind of hilarious in a depressing kind of way.

Maybe Gaudreau was like well ####, since the NHL jobs the Flames every playoffs they'll never win no matter what anyway. At least this would be intellectually honest however I think the words honest and Gaudreau are like mixing oil and water.

He has really left the impression the he doesn't actually care about winning.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Lol, I think the NHL world is stunned by this. Honestly one of the strangest UFA decisions I ever recall. I think the only people it makes sense to is Gaudreau and his agent.

3 years from now the Gaudreau family purchases into the Colombus Blue jackets.

[Monahammer]

#### all the details. #### the yearly hit. #### the associated rosters. #### Johnny skittles.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I'm reading Dom Luszczyszyn, who writes

"Johnny Gaudreau's play going into UFA was far superior to Artemi Panarin’s during his run to free agency, and he comes in nearly $2 million cheaper. It boggles the mind, especially knowing that Calgary offered $10.5 million over eight seasons."

In other words, cap adjusted, he expected Johnny to fetch $11m-$13m per season. I think that Dom Luszczyszyn is a smart guy and it's plausible Gross and Gaudreau thus expected that Johnny would also get $11m-$13m per year from some team out east. This would allow Johnny to BOTH (a) Play out east and (b) make comparable or more money than the flames offered.

BUT...the offers in the $11m-$13m range never came to fruition.

Johnny still took the highest offer available from an US Eastern Conference team as a UFA which was 7 x $9.75. No other team beat that. The islanders were at $9. The devils were between $9-$10. Columbus beat them both.

That's what happened. Johnny wanted to be out east. But they also misjudged the market. And then they made the best of a bad situation, which was Columbus for 7 years at $9.75m.


That's what happened. In hindsight, does Johnny wish he took the $10.5m x 8 from Calgary? Maybe. Maybe Calgary + $15m over 8 years is better than Columbus. But that offer was no longer on the table as of this morning because the 8th year was gone.


This is the logical explanation of what happened.

Is that what happened?

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I'm reading Dom Luszczyszyn, who writes

"Johnny Gaudreau's play going into UFA was far superior to Artemi Panarin’s during his run to free agency, and he comes in nearly $2 million cheaper. It boggles the mind, especially knowing that Calgary offered $10.5 million over eight seasons."

In other words, cap adjusted, he expected Johnny to fetch $11m-$13m per season. I think that Dom Luszczyszyn is a smart guy and it's plausible Gross and Gaudreau thus expected that Johnny would also get $11m-$13m per year from some team out east. This would allow Johnny to BOTH (a) Play out east and (b) make comparable or more money than the flames offered.

BUT...the offers in the $11m-$13m range never came to fruition.

Johnny still took the highest offer available from an US Eastern Conference team as a UFA which was 7 x $9.75. No other team beat that. The islanders were at $9. The devils were between $9-$10. Columbus beat them both.

That's what happened. Johnny wanted to be out east. But they also misjudged the market. And then they made the best of a bad situation, which was Columbus for 7 years at $9.75m.


That's what happened. In hindsight, does Johnny wish he took the $10.5m x 8 from Calgary? Maybe. Maybe Calgary + $15m over 8 years is better than Columbus. But that offer was no longer on the table as of this morning because the 8th year was gone.


This is the logical explanation of what happened.

I don't understand why they didn't still leave Calgary as an option. They could have seen what the market was offering and still come back for a good deal with the Flames if they didn't like what they were seeing. Surely, Calgary at this stage is a more attractive team than Columbus. Columbus ticks almost no rational boxes for him other than its somewhere in the US. Its still not home for him.

[Strange Brew]

So Flames were going to pay him $10.5 for 8 years. And supposedly give him the choice of the A or C if you believe the one rumor.

A day later and looks like Flames overvalued him. He'd be a Devil or Islander if those teams thought he was worth that and maybe a few other teams for that matter. Sure sounds like the Devils stood their ground with him.

I mentioned it before, quite possibly this was Brad Richards redux. Feaster saved from his own incompetence on that one.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by camm13

Originally Posted by Weitz
Is he going to buy in Columbus? He rented a condo and lived in basically a hotel his whole time in Calgary. I don’t see that changing much for him.



He did not live in a hotel the entire time he was here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7BZCnHvdOg

I recall he kept the house after Jooris got traded, got one of his buddies from his hometown to move here and work for him/ take care of his dog before he got together with his current wife. (All said in a interview).

What a different world. When I was young fella we asked a buddy to get us on with them because it was a better gig and paid more.

[Mathgod]

I still to this day don't understand why a team can't continue to offer their player an 8 year deal once free agency has started.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Igottago

I don't understand why they didn't still leave Calgary as an option. They could have seen what the market was offering and still come back for a good deal with the Flames if they didn't like what they were seeing. Surely, Calgary at this stage is a more attractive team than Columbus. Columbus ticks almost no rational boxes for him other than its somewhere in the US. Its still not home for him.

He played here for what, eight full seasons without buying a house or laying down roots. Isn't that kind of an obvious signal in hindsight?

Maybe it wasn't the city, maybe it was the organization? Who knows.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Can anyone make out what he's saying here? He's excited or some crap? Can be a leader if needed or something?

CLB is not going to make the playoffs. So, he'll have more offseason to drive to Cleveland with the fam I guess which will be soooo sweet.

If he used a line like that for his call with Treliving it's no wonder a deal didn't get done and Treliving was left looking so frustrated. I could barely understand a word he said.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Igottago

I don't understand why they didn't still leave Calgary as an option. They could have seen what the market was offering and still come back for a good deal with the Flames if they didn't like what they were seeing. Surely, Calgary at this stage is a more attractive team than Columbus. Columbus ticks almost no rational boxes for him other than its somewhere in the US. Its still not home for him.

Well this morning the offer would have been

7 x $9.75m from Columbus

or

7 x $10.5m from Calgary


At that point, maybe playing in Columbus and being a 90 minute non-stop flight from Philly is better than $0.75m per year and playing in Calgary.

Behavioral economics would also suggest that once he turned down Calgary at 8 x $10.5m, its emotionally difficult to go back and accept 7 x $9.75m. First there's loss aversion (no one likes to admit defeat and take losses). Second, there is already too much inertia to play out east.

[Mr.Coffee]

I almost wonder if he got a little bit tricked by Philadelphia. I wonder if things play out the way they did if Philly doesn't unlock that little bit of cap space yesterday which may have signaled to Gaudreau their interest.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I'm reading Dom Luszczyszyn, who writes

"Johnny Gaudreau's play going into UFA was far superior to Artemi Panarin’s during his run to free agency, and he comes in nearly $2 million cheaper. It boggles the mind, especially knowing that Calgary offered $10.5 million over eight seasons."

In other words, cap adjusted, he expected Johnny to fetch $11m-$13m per season. I think that Dom Luszczyszyn is a smart guy and it's plausible Gross and Gaudreau thus expected that Johnny would also get $11m-$13m per year from some team out east. This would allow Johnny to BOTH (a) Play out east and (b) make comparable or more money than the flames offered.

BUT...the offers in the $11m-$13m range never came to fruition.

Johnny still took the highest offer available from an US Eastern Conference team as a UFA which was 7 x $9.75. No other team beat that. The islanders were at $9. The devils were between $9-$10. Columbus beat them both.

That's what happened. Johnny wanted to be out east. But they also misjudged the market. And then they made the best of a bad situation, which was Columbus for 7 years at $9.75m.


That's what happened. In hindsight, does Johnny wish he took the $10.5m x 8 from Calgary? Maybe. Maybe Calgary + $15m over 8 years is better than Columbus. But that offer was no longer on the table as of this morning because the 8th year was gone.


This is the logical explanation of what happened.

I don't know who Todd Cordell is, but he said the deal in Jersey was north of $10 million per.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547375449189322754

[dino7c]

I look forward to the day this isn't the prize deal of free agency and is a boat anchor of a contract

we will all feel better about how it went down at that point

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Also, just realized this but, #### any grown ass adult who goes by “Johnny”. You’re John once you’re old enough to drink

Johnny Cash would beg to differ if he weren't dead. In fact, he still might, because I don't know how heavy or soundproof his tombstone is, and he might just get up for this.

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Gaudreau knew when he said “it’d be cool to play in Philly one day at the end of my career” that he wasn’t coming back.

Yup, he wasn't signing anywhere but Philly, and as soon as he got the chance, he bolted for… wait a minute.

I think you and Francis have dropped a stitch.

[calgaryred]

I wonder if Columbus was on John's No Trade List

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