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Old 07-13-2022, 09:58 PM   #961
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Or none of th above.
Yeah, still being 500+ miles from his hometown playing for a loser franchise isn't an indictment. Keep telling yourself that.
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Old 07-13-2022, 09:58 PM   #962
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I didn't want to tell this story when Gaudreau was here, it's not overly salacious or criminal or anything just felt like it wasn't appropriate but now I might as well tell it. It was 2016 I'm pretty sure, my friend and I ran into Gaudreau and Bouma at National. The Flames were on a roadtrip at that time but they were both injured and didn't go with the team. Gaudreau had broken his finger, dont remember what Bouma's problem was. My friend asked for a pic and Gaudreau said no problem, but just asked that he not post it anywhere because he was instructed by the team to not go out and party while they were on the road. I'm only a little older than him but even at the time I thought it was pretty stupid of him to risk being out like that, couldn't he at least take a couple of weeks off going out at the request of his employer making him a millionaire? It's not that hard. I jump through way more hoops at my job. It just rubbed me the wrong way, and a lot of stuff has piled up since that makes me think the guy is in it for the money and points but not really winning, and borderline had a bad attitude. He never added much mass to make him tougher to play against, had a notorious terrible diet, some other stuff which may or may not be true, folding in the playoffs every year...I took a lot of heat for claiming that Gaudreau wasn't a true champion that hated to lose and took things seriously, and this seems to be the ultimate confirmation. I don't hate him, don't think he's a bad guy or anything because he's definitely not and I wish him all the best. But I'm not sad to see him leave.
Appreciate you sharing your story, and I believe it. But honestly, just sounds like an ask from him to try and stop pics of him out partying ending up on social media, because we know how those all pan out.

Seems more like his social media training likely provided by the Flames kicking in and it’s just how he articulated it too you.
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:01 PM   #963
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I didn't want to tell this story when Gaudreau was here, it's not overly salacious or criminal or anything just felt like it wasn't appropriate but now I might as well tell it. It was 2016 I'm pretty sure, my friend and I ran into Gaudreau and Bouma at National. The Flames were on a roadtrip at that time but they were both injured and didn't go with the team. Gaudreau had broken his finger, dont remember what Bouma's problem was. My friend asked for a pic and Gaudreau said no problem, but just asked that he not post it anywhere because he was instructed by the team to not go out and party while they were on the road. I'm only a little older than him but even at the time I thought it was pretty stupid of him to risk being out like that, couldn't he at least take a couple of weeks off going out at the request of his employer making him a millionaire? It's not that hard. I jump through way more hoops at my job. It just rubbed me the wrong way, and a lot of stuff has piled up since that makes me think the guy is in it for the money and points but not really winning, and borderline had a bad attitude. He never added much mass to make him tougher to play against, had a notorious terrible diet, some other stuff which may or may not be true, folding in the playoffs every year...I took a lot of heat for claiming that Gaudreau wasn't a true champion that hated to lose and took things seriously, and this seems to be the ultimate confirmation. I don't hate him, don't think he's a bad guy or anything because he's definitely not and I wish him all the best. But I'm not sad to see him leave.
Alot of grasping at straws here. We know a few guys got in #### for partying. So what. #### happens. I would guess alot of young players with big money have done the same.
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:01 PM   #964
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Got to wonder if Brad would be tempted to offer sheet for laine, is he worth 2 first rounds, would 7-8 million be enough...his size would be a welcomed edition
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I didn't want to tell this story when Gaudreau was here, it's not overly salacious or criminal or anything just felt like it wasn't appropriate but now I might as well tell it. It was 2016 I'm pretty sure, my friend and I ran into Gaudreau and Bouma at National. The Flames were on a roadtrip at that time but they were both injured and didn't go with the team. Gaudreau had broken his finger, dont remember what Bouma's problem was. My friend asked for a pic and Gaudreau said no problem, but just asked that he not post it anywhere because he was instructed by the team to not go out and party while they were on the road. I'm only a little older than him but even at the time I thought it was pretty stupid of him to risk being out like that, couldn't he at least take a couple of weeks off going out at the request of his employer making him a millionaire? It's not that hard. I jump through way more hoops at my job. It just rubbed me the wrong way, and a lot of stuff has piled up since that makes me think the guy is in it for the money and points but not really winning, and borderline had a bad attitude. He never added much mass to make him tougher to play against, had a notorious terrible diet, some other stuff which may or may not be true, folding in the playoffs every year...I took a lot of heat for claiming that Gaudreau wasn't a true champion that hated to lose and took things seriously, and this seems to be the ultimate confirmation. I don't hate him, don't think he's a bad guy or anything because he's definitely not and I wish him all the best. But I'm not sad to see him leave.
Was that around the time Bouma effectively got thrown under the bus for being a bad influence?
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:03 PM   #966
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But I'm not sad to see him leave.
Neither am I really. I just never really got attached to him. Maybe because it always seemed like one foot was out the door, or whatever. Not sure why I didn't connect with him as a fan. I will be more upset the day Tkachuk or Lindhom leave. I was way more sad when Kipper retired and he was not really effective anymore at that point.

It just really sucks as far as the ability of this team goes. If JG left and we were able to replace his production right away, I honestly wouldn't have cared.
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:03 PM   #967
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The fact that he went to Columbus(!) tells me that he was extremely committed to going east and this wouldn’t have been a last minute decision. I have no idea why he wouldn’t have just told the Flames that a while back.
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At the end of the day, I'm now less disappointed in the Flames for losing Johnny, and I'm more disappointed in Johnny for apparently not being the player that would have wanted to leave a legacy of success on the ice. I'm not going to hold it against him that he wants to go chill with some friends in a low pressure environment where nobody will care about how he plays, but I definitely lost respect for him as a competitor. He's a great talent, but he does not have the heart of a champion. Glad he gave us some fun memories before going into his well-payed semi-retirement.
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Got to wonder if Brad would be tempted to offer sheet for laine, is he worth 2 first rounds, would 7-8 million be enough...his size would be a welcomed edition
No. Not worth it. The player, the picks, or burning any bridges.
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Got to wonder if Brad would be tempted to offer sheet for laine, is he worth 2 first rounds, would 7-8 million be enough...his size would be a welcomed edition
After signing Gaudreau, Columbus is bound to match any sane offer for Laine. Since they can go over the cap by 10% during the offseason, they actually have $11.4 million to spend at the moment.
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:09 PM   #971
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I also wonder how much the pandemic played into him wanting to be back in the U.S. and relatively closer to home. The travel restrictions probably made it harder to visit and the more conservative restriction sure weren't convenient, even if they were justified.
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Alot of grasping at straws here. We know a few guys got in #### for partying. So what. #### happens. I would guess alot of young players with big money have done the same.
I’ve heard from more than one connected source in the hockey world that #13 had a rehab stint while he had that broken finger from the Staal slash.
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:14 PM   #973
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The most rational explanation that I've come to terms with is that he wanted the least amount of pressure, be in the east, and not be in Canada. Somewhere he can just go out in public and not get recognized constantly. I'm convinced he would have always left a market where he was being counted on as the star. Especially if it was Philly or Jersey. He's always struck me as a bit of a Phil Kessel type. Both in skill and personalty.

Some people are willing to leave money on the table in order to achieve that. He used this past season for that right, likely against his agent's wishes.

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Okay, I'll bite.

I've been to nearly every city in North America due to my music career and Calgary is not even close to my first choice...but that's just me and every single person is going to have their own opinion. Many people would disagree with my least favorite city which happens to be New York. I HATE New York. After living in Calgary for a few years I'd say it's just an okay city while also being kind of boring, but again, that's just my opinion. There are many more interesting cities in the US I would gladly choose over Calgary just based off of food, entertainment, beauty, and history, while simultaneously ignoring the violence and bad neighborhoods.

Calgary makes these lists because it isn't violent and it's bad neighborhoods are really not all that bad...but it is kind of boring compared to many of the cities in the States I've visited and doing anything that isn't boring costs 3 times as much.

One huge issue Calgary has is that it tears down most of it's history to build something new that will look dated in 10 years. Also, the worst art piece I've ever seen is in Calgary, but it might also be the reason Markstrom gets as many bagles as he does.


Brooks, Alberta was ranked 9th while Calgary was ranked 31st in this list so maybe city ranking lists really aren't all that great: https://www.macleans.ca/canadas-best...-full-ranking/
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Too far west, not in the US, not close enough to family, etc etc just seem like a bunch of lame excuses for leaving the city that has treated him like royalty since he arrived here. He ran to Columbus like a little coward because he doesn't want to work hard to win a Stanley Cup. Can't stand scrutiny from the fans & media? Boo hoo, grow up you poor little multi millionaire.

He wants to keep his head down and coast his way through the next 7 years. Well good for him, he's getting exactly what he wants. We move on.
At least Flames fans are carrying themselves with a lot of dignity
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:15 PM   #976
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Canada must not be a very nice place to live. Or Sutter is mean. Or Gaudreau is just a #### (rhymes with bunt).

Probably one of those.
Hate to break it to you but Canada if you aren’t Canadian is… different, hard to put in words

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I guess that’s how I look at America.
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Brooks, Alberta was ranked 9th while Calgary was ranked 31st in this list so maybe city ranking lists really aren't all that great: https://www.macleans.ca/canadas-best...-full-ranking/
Or maybe the Economist Intelligence Unit knows what it's doing and Maclean's magazine is a clueless rag.

If you follow the link, it says the best thing about Brooks is its internet access. Yeah, that sure sounds like a reason to move there.

‘Internet access’ and ‘amenities’ are weighted equally on the Maclean's list. ‘Population growth’ is listed as a criterion, but transportation isn't considered at all.
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Not sure if it’s been said yet but “wonder if they’ll bury his career in the plot next to Rick Nash’s”

Add a little levity
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