Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread - Page 432 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

CroFlames · 07-13-2022, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Racki

Lewis, swallow your pride and come back to the table. There’s no shame in accepting that you’ve made a mistake.

Well except that you get fired by your client lmao

GioforPM · 07-13-2022, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GullFoss

That is really interesting as it notes that Tkachuk's only real option if he wants out is to sign the 1y, $9m contract. If he signs an offer sheet, flames match and then he's a Flame for seven-years.

He won't repeat last years numbers without Johnny. So if he signs the 1y, $9m contact...he's probably hurting his UFA salary.

It's in Tkachuck interest to actually just negotiate a long-term deal with Calgary or request a trade before the season begins so he can sign a long-term deal elsewhere.

He can arbitrate too, but that would be dumb.

Vinny01 · 07-13-2022, 03:55 PM

Is there even a chance the Gaudreau camp would circle back to the Flames? Pretty chocked to see Columbus in there. I am guessing he is only being offered in the low $9’s

nickerjones · 07-13-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaskal

I don't think the Gaudreau camp is entertaining any actual thought of living & playing out of Columbus (a entire day's drive from Carney's Point, where he grew up).

It's basically between NYI/NJ at this point unless he wants to NOT play close to his family.

They just want to drive up the price because they know Columbus has like over 30 million of cap space with the only RFA being Patrik Laine to sign this summer and might make an offer that will making NJ or NYI up their offer out of panic.

Plus Johnny is scared of the cannon.

GioforPM · 07-13-2022, 03:57 PM

Next after Columbus - Chicago. Then Nashville.

mile · 07-13-2022, 03:57 PM

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547321837771784193

JohnnyB · 07-13-2022, 03:58 PM

Maybe "a family decision" was "I want more money for my family"? Or, maybe Lewis Gross isn't very good with game theory.

nik- · 07-13-2022, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547321837771784193

Word spread across the NHL by Lewis Gross.

really? · 07-13-2022, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Is there even a chance the Gaudreau camp would circle back to the Flames? Pretty chocked to see Columbus in there. I am guessing he is only being offered in the low $9’s

Once the Flames inked Clark Bishop that door shut.

Bunk · 07-13-2022, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by trackercowe

I wonder if he'll end up in Seattle? They need a franchise player to sell the team. They could offer him similar money over 7 years as Calgary could have offered him over 8.

7x12... could they manage that salary?

"I need to move closer to home"

...moves further away. Wouldn't that just be a distinct kicking motion to the nads.

Winsor_Pilates · 07-13-2022, 04:01 PM

If he goes to Columbus what's the point?
Basically going to Calgary East who also lost their best players after being a competitive team prior.

GullFoss · 07-13-2022, 04:02 PM

New Jersey and Philly were 63 and 61 point teams last year. Johnny isn't enough to get them to the playoffs. And then add in the fact that they're offering less than Calgary. And then add in the fact that he likes Calgary. And then add in the fact that the locker room was tight.

The longer he looks at those other teams, the worse they probably look. The grass isn't greener on the other side. I can see why decision would have been so agonizing for him. The team is finally successful and he's going to one of the two worst teams in the league.

Racki · 07-13-2022, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CroFlames

Well except that you get fired by your client lmao

I just said to my wife. Johnny should fire his agent. Get a new one, and tell them to make a deal back in YYC.

1_Flames_Fan · 07-13-2022, 04:05 PM

If he wants to come back the offer drops to 7 x 9.5 now.

calgaryred · 07-13-2022, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rohara66

Thats ####ed up.

It means the offers have dried up

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flambers · 07-13-2022, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GullFoss

New Jersey and Philly were 63 and 61 point teams last year. Johnny isn't enough to get them to the playoffs. And then add in the fact that they're offering less than Calgary. And then add in the fact that he likes Calgary. And then add in the fact that the locker room was tight.

The longer he looks at those other teams, the worse they probably look. The grass isn't greener on the other side. I can see why decision would have been so agonizing for him. The team is finally successful and he's going to one of the two worst teams in the league.

Devils is really miss-leading they had major goalie injuries last season (7 of them spent time)

The Cobra · 07-13-2022, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GullFoss

New Jersey and Philly were 63 and 61 point teams last year. Johnny isn't enough to get them to the playoffs. And then add in the fact that they're offering less than Calgary. And then add in the fact that he likes Calgary. And then add in the fact that the locker room was tight.

The longer he looks at those other teams, the worse they probably look. The grass isn't greener on the other side. I can see why decision would have been so agonizing for him. The team is finally successful and he's going to one of the two worst teams in the league.

Lots of assumptions there based on amounts being offered.

Plus, when accessing where you want to play based on future prospects, I like NJ's future quite a bit better than Calgary's right now.

littlereddevil · 07-13-2022, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GullFoss

New Jersey and Philly were 63 and 61 point teams last year. Johnny isn't enough to get them to the playoffs. And then add in the fact that they're offering less than Calgary. And then add in the fact that he likes Calgary. And then add in the fact that the locker room was tight.

The longer he looks at those other teams, the worse they probably look. The grass isn't greener on the other side. I can see why decision would have been so agonizing for him. The team is finally successful and he's going to one of the two worst teams in the league.

But I thought New Jersey was a contender according to CP experts here

All kidding aside, Johnny and his agent likely overplayed their hand. Now they've probably realized that they may end up having to settle for a contract that pays much less than what Calgary is offering, just to have the luxury of being close to home. And I doubt he signs for Columbus or Seattle. He had a narrow list of teams for a reason, based solely on location preference.

dino7c · 07-13-2022, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaskal

I don't think the Gaudreau camp is entertaining any actual thought of living & playing out of Columbus (a entire day's drive from Carney's Point, where he grew up).

It's basically between NYI/NJ at this point unless he wants to NOT play close to his family.

They just want to drive up the price because they know Columbus has like over 30 million of cap space with the only RFA being Patrik Laine to sign this summer and might make an offer that will making NJ or NYI up their offer out of panic.

I hope it works and someone pays him 13M

RM14 · 07-13-2022, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

If he wants to come back the offer drops to 7 x 9.5 now.

$20MM difference overnight