Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[Monahammer]

Tampering in the NHL is almost as big a joke as it is in the NBA.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Major Major

I find it very odd that the flames would be giving out high level contract talk details in a general meeting. They're right though that no one is beating 84. My guess is that beats a Flyers offer by nearly 15 million.

I wouldn’t call it high level stuff. A few morning mimosas will sink a ship.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

You can't put a number on spite.

not just the contract but future picks all of which must be your original picks

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I wouldn’t call it high level stuff. A few morning mimosas will sink a ship.

Thanks for sharing.

[1qqaaz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1546888841730043904

I thought Zadorov wasn't that interested in staying.

[Duffalufagus]

I bet he goes to Philly. Which, given how badly they will get bent over this summer to move out the players they need to get under the cap, will be a terrible hockey decision for him and almost certainly hurt his career legacy.

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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I thought Zadorov wasn't that interested in staying.

Probably mostly due to the self awareness that the Flames won't offer him (because they likely can't afford to) what he's hoping to get on his next deal.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by agulati

Hayes and Gaudreau are the best of friends, so I’m sure Hayes is in his ear as well, about playing together.

So is Sean Monahan.

[Mars]

Originally Posted by rhino

why? There is an 8 year deal on the table already and if Johnny wanted to move in 4 years he could request that

Even if Johnny wanted to leave in 3-4 years when (if) Philly is starting to compete again, from a risk perspective you always take the longest term possible because these contracts are insured.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So is Sean Monahan.

Ha, just goes to show that Johnny shouldn't be making long term career choices based on playing with his besties with tenuous holds on NHL careers. Dude should be focused on winning full stop.

[Britflamesfan]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

And Tavares was 27 when he signed that deal.

Johnny will be 29.

I want the Flames to sign him, but it would be foolish to think there is no risk in giving a 29 year old LW a $11M contract for 8 years.

You do this to try to win in the next 3 seasons but after that it's not going to look great.

I get that but do we really and honestly think that with a weaker team overall (which it will be because JG will be taking a huge amount of cap) that we are going to be good enough to beat the Ave's and Vegas. Because we were not even close this year, we were run out of the arena by the oilers who were then hammered by the Ave's. Even if we went back with the exact same team we are not winning the cup.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So is Sean Monahan.

I don't think Sean is here next season... perfect buyout candidate

[Heavy Jack]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1546907531565465604

[Heavy Jack]

General consensus from twitter is that’s a mega overpay lol. No one in the league appreciates what Gaudreau is.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

https://twitter.com/user/status/1546907531565465604

Can't do much more than that

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by rhino

I don't think Sean is here next season... perfect buyout candidate

A promise to Gaudreau we will keep Monny until the end of his contract.

Also we will name 2 parks and playgrounds after Johnny. Both not boring.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

I bet he goes to Philly. Which, given how badly they will get bent over this summer to move out the players they need to get under the cap, will be a terrible hockey decision for him and almost certainly hurt his career legacy.

Then you look at the silver lining. A guy who prioritizes being close to mommy and daddy at age 28 over winning and his hockey legacy is not a guy you are winning with anyhow. I am not saying if that is the route he did choose that it is wrong, it is right for him but there is a long list of players who chose location over winning. Those guys retired with their hockey legacy being they put location first and winning and competing second. See Shane Doan for example. You don't win championships with guys like that. I don't think Johnny is like that though and I believe he was bring totally honest when he said he wants to be here, win here, and wants to stay here. I can't see a guy who seems as competitive as he is throwing his entire hockey legacy down the crapper just to be closer to mom and dad.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by rhino

I don't think Sean is here next season... perfect buyout candidate

Except he isn't, he is injured.

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Originally Posted by rhino

I don't think Sean is here next season... perfect buyout candidate

If the Flames lose Gaudreau there'll be no reason to buyout Monahan.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Britflamesfan

I get that but do we really and honestly think that with a weaker team overall (which it will be because JG will be taking a huge amount of cap) that we are going to be good enough to beat the Ave's and Vegas. Because we were not even close this year, we were run out of the arena by the oilers who were then hammered by the Ave's. Even if we went back with the exact same team we are not winning the cup.

I considered noting that Colorado has only one more year of the sweet MacKinnon deal, but then noticed that at the end of next season, exactly when he needs a raise, the Avs are relieved of Erik Johnson’s 6 million cap hit