Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by saillias

Rather have an 11.5 mil Gaudreau than a 10 million 4th line. This team likes to pay big dollars for middle and bottom of the roster players. God forbid they pay the franchise player his money and have to impose some cost discipline elsewhere

Absolutely, this.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Sec214

event with members of CSEC, CoC and Miscellaneous (Operations and Finance department- Not Hockey Ops).

Murray Edwards doesn’t like to pay millions up front to players, he authorized full bonus structure for Johnny (Buyout/Lockout proof)

Flames have a internal cap on JG13 Contract (84 Million) brass doesn’t believe anyone can offer more money.

The vibe I get from a few I’ve spoken too is unfortunately “tampering” is real in this negotiation. I have more but nothing I have confidence in to share.

#### you hayes.

Unbelievable if true…

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Originally Posted by Sec214

Flames have a internal cap on JG13 Contract (84 Million) brass doesn’t believe anyone can offer more money.

I'd say that's a safe bet, doubt anyone offers him 12 x 7.

But like others have said if the cap we'll offer is 10.5 x 8, but Gaudreau won't accept less than 11 x 8, I think you cave for the extra 500k.


But who knows, maybe the sticking point is the bonus structure instead of guaranteed money.

[littlereddevil]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

How about sign Kadri and get Kane?

ahhhh i'm still out.

Nahh, let the Oilers make the mistake of signing both Kadri and Kane.

As much as I like Kadri, he's going to get overpaid on the UFA market, and he's already north of 30.

[dino7c]

Stupid SN, keep getting notifications about which terrible goalie the Leafs have signed and which goalie with worse numbers than Smith the Oilers are spending all their cap on.

[AC]

No doubt tampering exists.

Friedman and Marek were talking about it in regards to Letang. PIT offered him $6Mx6 because it was known another team was unofficially offering $9Mx4.

They've explained in the past all it takes is for an agent and GM to have vague conversations where a GM expresses their desire to sign a talented LWer and what sort of capspace they'd have to do so.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are we talking about Monahan and Lucic on the 4th?

The Flames didn't go out and try to pay that much for a 4th line
- the made a very bad call to sign Neal who was intended to be a top 6 winger. It didn't work. We all know that
- Monahan suffered a series of injuries. When they signed the deal they weren't signing a 4th liner and for most of the contract he was strong.

So yes the Neal thing was an error. But one that had a rationale behind it.

The 20/20 thing on Monahan is irritating. As if the Flames should have anticipated his injuries.

Okay, Monahan wasn't a great example, but I do believe in the general premise that this franchise pays heavy for middle six and sometimes bottom line players. I realize some of that is our location, but yeah I'd be down for paying heavier to have a star or two and then being forced to be more cost effective lower down the line-up.

[agulati]

Hayes and Gaudreau are the best of friends, so I’m sure Hayes is in his ear as well, about playing together.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Was merely a joke; have noticed him since he started showing back up and I’m one of the posters he befriended lol

Man people are touchy, must be something stressful going on!

And the reference to Terrible wasn’t about you observing Gaudreauvertime being here

Just a general musing - with the amount of activity, and a cap on thanks, he’d have to be selective

Too bad gaudreauvertime is in the sin bin, that could add some entertainment

[JohnnyB]

Do the Devils or Flyers have any important RFAs this year that the Flames can offer sheet out of spite if this goes poorly?

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by agulati

Hayes and Gaudreau are the best of friends, so I’m sure Hayes is in his ear as well, about playing together.

Lol, he'll play with Hayes for 2 non playoff seasons before his buddy gets bought out and goes to Europe.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by littlereddevil

Nahh, let the Oilers make the mistake of signing both Kadri and Kane.

As much as I like Kadri, he's going to get overpaid on the UFA market, and he's already north of 30.

Oh i meant sign Kadri and acquire Patrick Kane.... lol

[Johnny Makarov]

Any chance of giving Johnny an 8 year contract but an out after 4 years with a guarantee trade to the East?

[rhino]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Do the Devils or Flyers have any important RFAs this year that the Flames can offer sheet out of spite if this goes poorly?

Jesper Bratt on Jersey 73 pts in 77 games last year but what compensation are you willing to give up in order to do this?

[rhino]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Any chance of giving Johnny an 8 year contract but an out after 4 years with a guarantee trade to the East?

why? There is an 8 year deal on the table already and if Johnny wanted to move in 4 years he could request that

[Icon]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Do the Devils or Flyers have any important RFAs this year that the Flames can offer sheet out of spite if this goes poorly?

Flyers, no.

Devils have Bratt, Zacha, Boqvist, Wood this year, Sharangovich & Smith next year.

But Treliving doesn't strike me as an offer sheet guy.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Sec214

The vibe I get from a few I’ve spoken too is unfortunately “tampering” is real in this negotiation. I have more but nothing I have confidence in to share.

#### you hayes.

Spill the beans!

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Sec214

event with members of CSEC, CoC and Miscellaneous (Operations and Finance department- Not Hockey Ops).

Murray Edwards doesn’t like to pay millions up front to players, he authorized full bonus structure for Johnny (Buyout/Lockout proof)

Flames have a internal cap on JG13 Contract (84 Million) brass doesn’t believe anyone can offer more money.

The vibe I get from a few I’ve spoken too is unfortunately “tampering” is real in this negotiation. I have more but nothing I have confidence in to share.

#### you hayes.

I find it very odd that the flames would be giving out high level contract talk details in a general meeting. They're right though that no one is beating 84. My guess is that beats a Flyers offer by nearly 15 million.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by rhino

Jesper Bratt on Jersey 73 pts in 77 games last year but what compensation are you willing to give up in order to do this?

You can't put a number on spite.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Icon

Flyers, no.

Devils have Bratt, Zacha, Boqvist, Wood this year, Sharangovich & Smith next year.

But Treliving doesn't strike me as an offer sheet guy.

I'm really just kidding anyways.