Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I agree completely with this. In my heart I want him to sign but in my head I wonder if its the right thing.

Yeah, I want him to stay but an 8 year contract at ~$11M is something I suspect would cause problems on the back half of it.

[Makarov]

Between the Eichel trade, the play-offs, and this, the Calgary Flames have caused me to suffer an unreasonable amount of butt-clenching so far in 2022.

[Ashasx]

The problem with not signing Gaudreau is that the Flames will use that cap space in much worse, likely devastating ways.

Gaudreau IS the least risky option.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The problem with not signing Gaudreau is that the Flames will use that cap space in much worse, likely devastating ways.

Gaudreau IS the least risky option.

Yeah, if we could trust the team to accept that it's a fatal blow to lose your best asset for nothing and move in another direction it would be one thing. They won't, and it will be the other thing.

The money of a signing is going to be too much though. It's a really bad place to be in.

[Cycling76er]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Between the Eichel trade, the play-offs, and this, the Calgary Flames have caused me to suffer an unreasonable amount of butt-clenching so far in 2022.

Who needs kegels anymore?

[littlereddevil]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The problem with not signing Gaudreau is that the Flames will use that cap space in much worse, likely devastating ways.

Gaudreau IS the least risky option.

Agree.

It scares me to think that Treliving might overpay for a UFA like Kadri if Gaudreau doesn't resign.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The problem with not signing Gaudreau is that the Flames will use that cap space in much worse, likely devastating ways.

Gaudreau IS the least risky option.

This is just it really, come on Johnny please make this a happy off-season lol.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I agree completely with this. In my heart I want him to sign but in my head I wonder if its the right thing.

Depends whether you're thinking about it with your "business head" (as Tre must) or with your "fan head" (as most of us do...because we're not Tre).

Johnny brings in bucks...lotsa bucks. So one needs to look at the opportunity cost of NOT signing him...potential flagging interest in the Flames, same for an arena, loss of seatholders and sponsorships, fewer jersey sales.

OTOH, an $11M AAV contract can become a millstone, unless you plan on simply playing in the back half with a $5M smaller cap (essentially), or eating salary on a trade - which comes to much the same thing.

As a fan, I don't care what the Flames spend...I like watching him, he's exciting, has a bunch of great moves, brings speed and finesse to the team's game...and increases their chance of a Cup.

[Jason14h]

Think how many 3rd liners that struggle to get 15 goals we can use that money on though!

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

I'm shocked this situation was allowed to get to this point.

Totally. We should have given him a 17 year deal in 2010 like Kovalchuk.

[Gaskal]

Bold prediction:

CP will crash at 11:57am EST and not recover for 20 minutes.

Johnny's going to announce the extension on his Twitter and the timestamp on it will be 11:59am EST July 13, 20 seconds before the official start of free agency.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The problem with not signing Gaudreau is that the Flames will use that cap space in much worse, likely devastating ways.

Gaudreau IS the least risky option.

This 100%.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by littlereddevil

Agree.

It scares me to think that Treliving might overpay for a UFA like Kadri if Gaudreau doesn't resign.

Pffft, Tre will sign Perron to a 5 years 30 MM deal, book it!

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The problem with not signing Gaudreau is that the Flames will use that cap space in much worse, likely devastating ways.

I dunno dude, that's really quite pessimistic. Devastating... really?

[Infinit47]

I would think if they weren't close at all we would have heard that by by now. So I'm saying there's a chance.

[Jason14h]

For a team that trades picks like trading cards, why are we worried about what our cap situation will look like in 5 years? Clearly the window is now

With or without JG, there isnt a lot of young help coming through the pipeline and all our key D are young and underpaid as is our #1 center.

In 4-5 years the cap situation will suck regardless if JG is eating 2-3 million more then we would like.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

For fans of the Calgary Flames I think he absolutely has to re-sign. Even if the number is 11 M it has to happen. By letting him go you lose your best player and then your 2nd best player has to decide if he stays. By getting a coach like Sutter and a goalie like Markstrom, Calgary wanted to make the playoffs and at least be competitive. You jettison other players into the sun to make it work.

From a rival fan, it's a no brainer for me. Calgary fans should be wanting Gaudreau to sign with no if's and's or but's about it. He still has years of good production left and is your best player by a decent amount IMO.

He's not replaceable so there's no doubt if he leaves it's devastating to the Flames but it's out of the team's control now. If he leaves you just have to move on and hope that the team can win with different players. A small market western canadian team will always have the risk of losing top players to free agency, especially US born players. It is what it is.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The problem with not signing Gaudreau is that the Flames will use that cap space in much worse, likely devastating ways.

Gaudreau IS the least risky option.

That's a very good and scary point.

What is the difference in sides now (rumors) 500k? Just get it done already.

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2mins between posts on this thread... did CP crash... is it happening?

TEST TEST

Edit: aww. nope. back to work I go.

[McG]

Welcome 297 guests and spiders!

Odd non money question…

Once money is agreed, is it safe to assume that the other contract variables are essentially complete? I’m thinking that standard clauses NMC etc are like radio buttons on a form?