Jesus Christ, I don't watch the same crazy news channels as you guys, I just watch a #### tonne of movies and remember this one from 15 years ago. Now I'm a climate denier and a disinfo nut? #### you Al Gore, for existing in my filmic brain. I read the title of this thread and thought that it would be funny things in here, but instead it's full of angry people. I'll back myself out. Have at it.
You remember graphs from movies 15 years ago? I envy your memory.
What frustrates me the most is that massive issues like climate change can't even get proper solutions agreed upon by the people who believe in climate change.
The green agenda has been completely hijacked by morons, and on the energy front things are going to hell in a handbasket.
After 30 years of supposed agreement among the greenies about what we NEED to do going forward, more and more countries who pride themselves on having an environmentally friendly outlook are literally going back to burning coal. And I don't think we've seen the worst of it yet. With Europe more than likely going to be completely cut off from Russian gas, winter is going to be pretty bleak.
I think to most people with a shred of common sense, the solutions have been pretty clear but the activist, not give in at all costs agenda has ruined things for a lot of people.
Not going to be a good 2-5 years going forward.
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I'm always curious with these types of wishes for humanity. Are you okay with this if it ended up being you, your family or people you know, or is it contingent on it being "others" because you still want to be part of this beautiful miracle that we enjoy? And how do you feel morally if you're only okay with it being others but don't want it if it's you and those you know?
Not trying to go deep or anything as this is just a fun thought exersize, it just always jumps out at me that these types of proclamations whether intended or not always have an undertone of it being "them". Unfortunately others/they will have to be sacrificed. Even in your post your feeling is that "we" march on in a better manner. "so by the time we're back to planet affecting numbers hopefully we're smarter about it".
You still feely the same if "we" is minus you and your loved ones? Like you'd want that for the better of a species that you're no longer a part of?
Everyone thinks they're the protagonists, and the people they don't know are just expendable NPCs. I've never understood people with the "I'm ok if a meteor hit the Earth and wiped out 95% of our population" in the name of climate change. So you're ok to see your kids, family, friends, and everyone you know die horrible deaths to prove some sort of point?
Everyone thinks they're the protagonists, and the people they don't know are just expendable NPCs. I've never understood people with the "I'm ok if a meteor hit the Earth and wiped out 95% of our population" in the name of climate change. So you're ok to see your kids, family, friends, and everyone you know die horrible deaths to prove some sort of point?
I've never been all that fond of the Post-Apocalyptic Dystopia. Existence or Subsistence really isnt my bag.
So I'd maybe be okay with a meteor hitting the Earth and wiping out 95% of the population....so long as I'm in that 95%.
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To be honest, if a meteor hit the Earth, I hope I'm vaporized right away. My cushy lifestyle doesn't translate well in a post apocalyptic world. I'd be the first one eaten by cannibals, and my organs harvested lol.
To be honest, if a meteor hit the Earth, I hope I'm vaporized right away. My cushy lifestyle doesn't translate well in a post apocalyptic world. I'd be the first one eaten by cannibals, and my organs harvested lol.
Well this is what I was getting at. Me too.
Believe it or not, for all of my Internet Cred, my set of skills is not all that well suited for the Apocalypse.
"Okay...we've survived the Apocalypse. Now we need to establish a complicated set of rules concerning Taxation!"
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To be honest, if a meteor hit the Earth, I hope I'm vaporized right away. My cushy lifestyle doesn't translate well in a post apocalyptic world. I'd be the first one eaten by cannibals, and my organs harvested lol.
Sometimes I think about a dilemma relating to this. Why would you want to survive an apocalypse or a world-ending event? So one can be forced to scavenge and survive in a destroyed, possibly irradiated wasteland and just wait out the inevitable while your body decays with sickness and time?
If the meteor doesn't finish me off, I think I might because a pro-gun advocate in a New York minute.
the polar ice caps were supposed to melt 10 years ago, so this is all gravy time. Live it up, have some kids, eviscerate a dog, the worlds a beautiful place.
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Sure, but that seems a little apple to oranges to me. All these major issues people are mentioning in this thread, how many people here in this discussion have actually been threatened by the things mentioned in the OP?
We've always had assassinations
We've always had conspiracy theories
There's always been gun violence
There have always been wars
What makes the current ones so much worse? The fact that people just mainline content telling them all about how miserable they should be, usually trying to make it seem worse than it actually is just to get clicks or views
Kind of bringing back a topic from a few pages ago but I think the issue is visibility.
Even in the depths of the world wars, if you were some typical schmuck in the US working and raising a family, you knew awful stuff was happening but it wasn't in your neighborhood. It was a headline in the paper.
Before the world became so connected there were hurricanes and floods and earthquakes and massacres...we just didn't see the evidence the way we do now. Now we can see death and destruction and injustice on every screen we use, big and small.
We intake a vast amount of information on a daily basis, probably more in a day than our great-grandparents did in a week. And so much of that information is upsetting. We haven't evolved to handle this constant crush of bad news.
The pandemic just made this worse for people who have taken it seriously from day one. We've spent 2+ years in extended crisis mode. And we're the lucky ones, even with the mess that the US is in right now: I'm not in Syria, Palestine, etc.
But if you're informed about the world and have even a shred of humanity, it's going to affect you. And this is why I see a therapist once a month even though my personal life is pretty solid. She helps me work through all the tangled up emotions and helps me determine how to best straddle the "informed but not despondent" line.
And she's never recommended a single book.
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What frustrates me the most is that massive issues like climate change can't even get proper solutions agreed upon by the people who believe in climate change.
The green agenda has been completely hijacked by morons, and on the energy front things are going to hell in a handbasket.
After 30 years of supposed agreement among the greenies about what we NEED to do going forward, more and more countries who pride themselves on having an environmentally friendly outlook are literally going back to burning coal. And I don't think we've seen the worst of it yet. With Europe more than likely going to be completely cut off from Russian gas, winter is going to be pretty bleak.
I think to most people with a shred of common sense, the solutions have been pretty clear but the activist, not give in at all costs agenda has ruined things for a lot of people.
Not going to be a good 2-5 years going forward.
The environmental movement is not responsible for Putin's actions. Putin is responsible for Putin's actions.
The Fukushima disaster caused a lot of worry, concern, and angst regarding nuclear power and nuclear reactors in general. Unfortunately this fear spread around the world much faster than the facts of what actually happened and why. The unfortunate result of that was a rollback in nuclear power in some countries (and possibly more rollbacks coming). Is the environmental movement partially to blame for this? Admittedly so. But on some level you can't blame them for worrying about what happens at nuclear reactors when worst case scenarios become reality. Huge releases of radioactive material, and entire swaths of earth becoming uninhabitable for thousands of years...
That said, proper plant design and safety measures can prevent this with very nearly 100% certainty. Unfortunately, proper measures were not taken in Fukushima and Chernobyl.
For the record, I'm very much in favor of humanity getting its power from modern and properly run nuclear reactors as a stop-gap until renewables devlop to the point where they can power the world.
