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Old 07-09-2022, 05:08 PM   #21
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Embrace the chaos. I look forward to living in a post apocalyptic wasteland. It’ll be like the Last of Us cosplay but all the time and with higher stakes!
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No, you don’t.

Look at the last two and a half years to see how people reacted to being inconvenienced.
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More people having kids would be a start - then their parents might pull their heads out of their asses and try to make the world a little better in the here and now, and the kids might actually grow up and make it better still.

The birth rate has declined by a 3rd since 1980 - down from 14.8/1000 to 10.1 last year, and it’s projecting to fall even lower.

People can whine about taxes and war and climate change all they want, but nothing submarines a modern economy like a low birth rate.
Declining birth rate? Where did you read that?

By 2035 the world is expected to have 3.5 billion more people. A fifty percent increase in babies.
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Declining birth rate? Where did you read that?

By 2035 the world is expected to have 3.5 billion more people. A fifty percent increase in babies.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...rld/birth-rate

Looks like a declining birth rate to me?

Yet, growth rate is still positive.... But 3.5bil more by 2035? Where do you see that. This site shows just under 1bil more.
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Declining birth rate? Where did you read that?

By 2035 the world is expected to have 3.5 billion more people. A fifty percent increase in babies.
Canada’s birth rate has declined 32% since 1980. You can Google that.
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Old 07-09-2022, 06:00 PM   #26
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Declining birth rate? Where did you read that?

By 2035 the world is expected to have 3.5 billion more people. A fifty percent increase in babies.
More people having less kids still equals more people…
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People are making the world a better place every day.
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Said part of humanity.
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Worry about what you can change, ignore/accept/or embrace what you can’t, and enjoy everything you can about life, because if a nuclear bomb hits (or, more likely, you die from cancer when you’re 105) you’re not going to sit there wishing you worried more about how the end was going to come.

Life is for living, and all that. You can have fun with and enjoy just about anything even when you’re going through the ####. There are people with circumstances far worse than anyone here and they still manage to find happiness.

If you’re feeling overwhelmed or everything going on in the world is getting you down, making you anxious, or any of that, go to therapy (or find some folks with a good mindset who are open to to chatting about things and giving you a different perspective). The mind needs just as much care as the body.
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Stressed about money and life? I recommend you go buy this book, it should help you through things.

Screw counsellors/therapists, that seems to be their go-to. If I wanted that as an answer, I would have gone to chapters self-help section. Thanks for wasting $150 and my time.
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Stressed about money and life? I recommend you go buy this book, it should help you through things.

Screw counsellors/therapists, that seems to be their go-to. If I wanted that as an answer, I would have gone to chapters self-help section. Thanks for wasting $150 and my time.
Sounds like you need to see a better therapist, sorry you had a bad one
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More people having kids would be a start - then their parents might pull their heads out of their asses and try to make the world a little better in the here and now, and the kids might actually grow up and make it better still.

The birth rate has declined by a 3rd since 1980 - down from 14.8/1000 to 10.1 last year, and it’s projecting to fall even lower.

People can whine about taxes and war and climate change all they want, but nothing submarines a modern economy like a low birth rate.
From a biological perspective, people propagating the species and passing down genes is not the problem, and is in fact necessary.

For example, when a herd of deer reach their carrying capacity, nature's solution isn't to prevent procreation, but instead the heard in thinned by allowing the sick and old to die (typically the individuals that no longer reproduce), and through competition of resources and disease. In fact, reproduction is essential for the robustness of the gene pool and combatting new viruses and changes to the environment through evolution. It is pretty much the same with humans.

With humans, we have taken ourselves out of nature, we changed the rules, but someone forgot to tell mother nature. The economic and social systems we have developed, particularly in the Western world have failed to account for this. When people decide not to pass on their genes, I feel that in our society, it is almost always due to economic situations, individualist incentives, or social isolation (involuntary celibacy). These people try to find an altruistic sense of purpose for their decision by citing environmentalist causes. I think it's human nature to try and find a legacy, and that is theirs.

The real issue is socio-economic though, not carrying capacity. Individuals are increasingly having environmental footprints bigger than they need to and only consume, mostly in the rich and industrialized countries, but its increasing globally in general. That isn't going to change soon, so maybe forcing a population decrease by lowering births is a short term fix, but for the species and evolution, it is not a good option. Thinning the herd at the top probably isn't an option, at least not on purpose, but nature has a way of taking care of that eventually.
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Stressed about money and life? I recommend you go buy this book, it should help you through things.

Screw counsellors/therapists, that seems to be their go-to. If I wanted that as an answer, I would have gone to chapters self-help section. Thanks for wasting $150 and my time.
Man I'm on the edge of my seat over what this book is!
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Stressed about money and life? I recommend you go buy this book, it should help you through things.

Screw counsellors/therapists, that seems to be their go-to. If I wanted that as an answer, I would have gone to chapters self-help section. Thanks for wasting $150 and my time.

I mean, it wasn’t like the suggestion of seeing a therapist was the only thing PF offered in their post.
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More people having less kids still equals more people…
Outside of the middle east, southeast Asia and Africa populations are shrinking, not accounting for immigration. South America is at more or less at replacement, but will fall below that very soon. Even in Africa fertility is failing quickly. Current projections have the global population peaking around 2100 AD and then dramatically falling after that.
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Said part of humanity.
Yup. Humanity is a cancer on this planet.
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Yup. Humanity is a cancer on this planet.
And yet, you’re still here.

Which I’m glad for, btw - don’t get it twisted. Nobody kill themselves. But if we’re such a cancer, and you’re part of us, why are you still here?

Is it because Humanity is the most remarkable form of life in the observed universe, and being alive is actually quite awesome?

You know, you wouldn’t say that if you’d seen your own child smile at you.

If you’d seen your wife go through 28 hours of labour and lose a third of her blood bringing your child into the world.

If you’d seen those things, you wouldn’t think “humanity is a cancer that deserves to be wiped off the planet” and rooting for the meteor.

You’d think “this world needs to be protected and made better for my kid.”

You’d go to bed every night praying that the meteor never comes.

Food for thought.
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Invasions with nuclear threats, assassinations, conspiracy's, crazy gun violence and incredible disparity between the rich and middle class/poor the world is a crap show.

Not too long ago the difference between the right and the left was a vote, now it's sometimes life and death.

Can it be fixed?

I fear the worst
Weak people create hard times
Hard times create strong people
Strong people create good times
Good times create weak people

We're just in the first to second step of a cycle thats happened many times before in our history.

Humanity has stared onto the abyss of uncertainty and violence before. And the cushy-ness of the last few decades has made us weak again. That set us up perfectly for the global ####storms that are happening now. But this will all serve to help us emerge stronger people (and leaders specifically) because we're being forced to find solutions now since we can't BS our way out of the real consequences being felt presently.

Eventually we're emerge back into relative prosperity and peace, but not before this phase hardens us and forces us to be innovative and take difficult but necessary actions.
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Worry about what you can change, ignore/accept/or embrace what you can’t, and enjoy everything you can about life, because if a nuclear bomb hits (or, more likely, you die from cancer when you’re 105) you’re not going to sit there wishing you worried more about how the end was going to come.

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I knew this was a PepsiFree post before scrolling to the username. So consistent. Needs a scouts badge for it.
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