[LOL] Coyotes release their STH seating chart for their 5000 person arena

[dissentowner]

Only the stubbornness of Gary Bettman would ever see NHL players have to use a trailer as a dressing room.

[butterfly]

Just checked the schedule and Calgary doesn't have to go there until February. At least the Flames won't be one of the teams that has to go to the parking lot between periods!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Only the stubbornness of Gary Bettman would ever see NHL players have to use a trailer as a dressing room.

I've asked before and never got an answer:

What can Bettman do about it? Revoke the franchise and pay Meruelo several hundred million dollars in compensation? Good luck talking the other 31 owners into that.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I've asked before and never got an answer:

What can Bettman do about it? Revoke the franchise and pay Meruelo several hundred million dollars in compensation? Good luck talking the other 31 owners into that.

Basically - yes. Probably have to buy them back for like $300-350M.

And then auction the team off in a few years for $600-650M (without having to divide the pie up further like regular expansion). Houston or KC or Quebec in the interim.

[FlamesAddiction]

With the arena deal in Calgary falling apart and the Dome on its last legs, it good to know that the league is so supportive.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

With the arena deal in Calgary falling apart and the Dome on its last legs, it good to know that the league is so supportive.

The Flames will only play in outdoor rinks next season. All home games are played in January and February.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Basically - yes. Probably have to buy them back for like $300-350M.

And then auction the team off in a few years for $600-650M (without having to divide the pie up further like regular expansion). Houston or KC or Quebec in the interim.

If the team can be sold for $600m on the open market, you can bet Meruelo is going to demand every penny of that. And if the league doesn't give him the money voluntarily, the lawsuits will drag on for years.

On top of which, no owner in the NHL wants a precedent that his franchise can be taken away from him simply because the league doesn't like his business plan.

[MrMike]

But when it’s hurting the league image and revenue you’d think there would be something that could be done.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

If the team can be sold for $600m on the open market, you can bet Meruelo is going to demand every penny of that. And if the league doesn't give him the money voluntarily, the lawsuits will drag on for years.

On top of which, no owner in the NHL wants a precedent that his franchise can be taken away from him simply because the league doesn't like his business plan.

The price delta is essentially the relocation fee.

NHL owners don't want to subsidize a clown show, either.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

From the Defector

https://defector.com/circle-this-gam...-the-calendar/

It reminds me of the situation in Calgary when the Flames moved into the 100 year old rink with cement dressing rooms for FOUR seasons before the federal government built them an arena. Sometimes you have to go the temporary route to achieve what needs to be done.

Flames have been waiting on a new rink, or one with the needed amenities since 1992, so 30 years already, what's TEN more when our city wants to spend $87 Billion on Climate Change.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by MrMike

But when it’s hurting the league image and revenue you’d think there would be something that could be done.

Yes, there is something that can be done:

Suck it up.

This actually isn't the first time an NHL team has been without an arena to play in, so there are precedents. Mind you, the last time was over 90 years ago. Partway through the 1928-29 season, the Blackhawks lost their lease at the old Chicago Coliseum. They played the rest of their ‘home’ games in Detroit and in Fort Erie, Ontario. The following season they moved into the brand new Chicago Stadium.

As far as I can tell, the only way the Coyotes would be violating the terms of their franchise is if they don't build a suitable arena as soon as they reasonably can. If they have a deal in the works, they can play in whatever temporary facilities they have to while it is being built.

Now, if Tempe doesn't sign an arena deal with the Coyotes, then the league will have grounds to make the Coyotes relocate. Meanwhile, it looks like they just have to put up with the situation.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Yes, there is something that can be done:

Suck it up.

This actually isn't the first time an NHL team has been without an arena to play in, so there are precedents. Mind you, the last time was over 90 years ago. Partway through the 1928-29 season, the Blackhawks lost their lease at the old Chicago Coliseum. They played the rest of their ‘home’ games in Detroit and in Fort Erie, Ontario. The following season they moved into the brand new Chicago Stadium.

As far as I can tell, the only way the Coyotes would be violating the terms of their franchise is if they don't build a suitable arena as soon as they reasonably can. If they have a deal in the works, they can play in whatever temporary facilities they have to while it is being built.

Now, if Tempe doesn't sign an arena deal with the Coyotes, then the league will have grounds to make the Coyotes relocate. Meanwhile, it looks like they just have to put up with the situation.

I think both the California Golden Seals and the Flyers had to use temporary rinks also. I know the roof blew off the Flyers arena one season early after the Spectrum was built.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

this is hilarious.

It's temporary. Not sure what's hilarious about that.

The Tempe project is legit, they finally have an owner who is committed to putting up the cash to build an arena close to the snowbirds.

Ellman deciding to move the team to Glendale over Scottsdale is the only reason this is even a discussion.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

I think both the California Golden Seals and the Flyers had to use temporary rinks also. I know the roof blew off the Flyers arena one season early after the Spectrum was built.

True enough. I was specifically thinking of situations where an NHL team actually got kicked out of its arena when the lease was up, and that was the latest one I could come up with.

By the way, I've done some reading up on arena disasters as part of a side project. Did you know there were actually several new arenas whose roofs collapsed or fell apart within a few years in the 1970s?

CAD software was a pretty new thing at that time, and apparently the principal vendor coded the material stress formulas wrong. Pretty much every large building designed with that software had to have its roof rebuilt at ludicrous expense. Oops.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

From the Defector

https://defector.com/circle-this-gam...-the-calendar/

This entire "write up" is a load of bull####

They will be using the Community rink locker rooms temporarily (A second arena attached to the greater arena) until the Annex is completed. Construction of a 2 store attachment is well underway.

https://app.oxblue.com/open/mortenson/asuarena

It's amazing and quite frankly pretty bizarre how people get so deranged about this entire situation when it's TEMPORARY

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by MrMike

But when it’s hurting the league image and revenue you’d think there would be something that could be done.

How is it hurting league revenues?? This entire season is nearly sold out and the team will likely pull in more revenue this season than in Glendale..

[kaddy]

Originally Posted by Jordan!

How is it hurting league revenues?? This entire season is nearly sold out and the team will likely pull in more revenue this season than in Glendale..

Almost sold out with 5000? I'm not sure that's something to be happy about.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by kaddy

Almost sold out with 5000? I'm not sure that's something to be happy about.

First it was, oh ticket prices are too high they'll never sell to

Oh wow, 5000 seats - big deal..

Deranged.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Jordan!

This entire "write up" is a load of bull####

They will be using the Community rink locker rooms temporarily (A second arena attached to the greater arena) until the Annex is completed. Construction of a 2 store attachment is well underway.

https://app.oxblue.com/open/mortenson/asuarena

It's amazing and quite frankly pretty bizarre how people get so deranged about this entire situation when it's TEMPORARY

There is an issue with the first photo though Jordan. There are fans in the building.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

There is an issue with the first photo though Jordan. There are fans in the building.

People from Scottsdale, Chandler, Gilbert and Mesa can finally go to games. Duh!