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			This will raise the Sens to 20th overall in the league.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:19 PM
			
			
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			Pretty sure Debrincat is an RFA next summer in the exact same situation Tkachuk is in now. 
 
Ottawa may very well lose him after 2 seasons if he doesn’t want to sign long term. 
 
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			07-07-2022, 03:20 PM
			
			
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				Have you seen the team he's leaving ... 
			
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Have you seen the city he’s leaving, and going to?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:20 PM
			
			
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			TBF Chicago is potentially tanking in time for the strongest draft in a generation. Bedard is the cream, but the rest of the top 7 players are also unreal. Just in the WHL you have Branden Yager and Tanner Howe with high offensive upside. Of course, Bedard is there as well. Adam Fantilli in the US.  
Lots of very, very interesting forward talent at the top of next draft.  
 
Here is the tank that people have been debating about. This is what it looks like.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:21 PM
			
			
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				I’m sure Debrincat is thrilled with this haha 
			
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He bloody well should be. Ottawa is much closer to seriously competing compared to Chicago who hasn’t hit their rock bottom yet. He’ll have fun growing together with their young core. Much better situation for him IMO.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-07-2022, 03:21 PM
			
			
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			Wtf are the Sens doing?  Wtf are the hawks doing?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:22 PM
			
			
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			How did they go from the Seth Jones thing to trading DeBrincat in less than a year?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:22 PM
			
			
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			Looks like the Senators make out well here and it's going to come down to what the Hawks end up making out of the picks.  If by chance this trade helps the Hawks become bad enough to get a crack at the 1st overall pick next season it will be worth it even if the picks bust.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:23 PM
			
			
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				TBF Chicago is potentially tanking in time for the strongest draft in a generation. Bedard is the cream, but the rest of the top 7 players are also unreal. Just in the WHL you have Branden Yager and Tanner Howe with high offensive upside. Of course, Bedard is there as well. Adam Fantilli in the US.  
Lots of very, very interesting forward talent at the top of next draft.  
 
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They should move Kane then.  Especially if they pay his bonus.  He'd be so attractive to a US team with space needing the floor.  He only makes 6.9 and of that 4 is bonus.  He garner a ton.  
 
He has a full NMC though.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:24 PM
			
			
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				no idea what the Sens are doing. They are getting way ahead of their window. 
 
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Naw. This is a stellar trade.
 
Debrincat (24) 
Norris (23) 
Tkachuk (22) 
Stutzle (20) 
Chabot (25)
 
Great group of young players to build around. Much better to get these guys used to winning some games now than to stay in a cycle of losing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:26 PM
			
			
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			Well that gives us an idea on the return Tkachuk would net. Worth it? Not so sure.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:26 PM
			
			
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				They should move Kane then.  Especially if they pay his bonus.  He'd be so attractive to a US team with space needing the floor.  He only makes 6.9 and of that 4 is bonus.  He garner a ton.   
 
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Someone suggested this in the trade thread, but IMO it makes sense. They are probably selling the floor out underneath Kane and Toews precisely so that they will waive their NMCs and they can trade them. Kind of like a "oh, you think we won't tear it all down? Just watch."
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:28 PM
			
			
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				Well that gives us an idea on the return Tkachuk would net. Worth it? Not so sure. 
			
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Tkachuk gets more than that, much better all around player
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:28 PM
			
			
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				They should move Kane then.  Especially if they pay his bonus.  He'd be so attractive to a US team with space needing the floor.  He only makes 6.9 and of that 4 is bonus.  He garner a ton.   
 
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Now that DeBrincat is gone. I think Kane and Toews are going to be asking for trades.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:28 PM
			
			
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				Naw. This is a stellar trade. 
 
Debrincat (24) 
Norris (23) 
Tkachuk (22) 
Stutzle (20) 
Chabot (25) 
 
Great group of young players to build around. Much better to get these guys used to winning some games now than to stay in a cycle of losing. 
			
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Sanderson 
Batherson 
Brannstrom 
Formenton 
Pinto
 
I like their coming future way more than ours.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:29 PM
			
			
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			This is a good deal for Ottawa.  
 
Debrincat has already scored 40 goals twice and is 24. He is a legit top line threat.  
 
Chicago are completely burning it down.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:29 PM
			
			
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				Naw. This is a stellar trade. 
 
Debrincat (24) 
Norris (23) 
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Chabot (25) 
 
Great group of young players to build around. Much better to get these guys used to winning some games now than to stay in a cycle of losing. 
			
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Batherson (24)
 
Seems cheap for a two time 40 goal scorer.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:30 PM
			
			
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			Now that’s a great trade to get out of a rebuild. Find a good RD partner for Chabot and then you’ve got something there.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-07-2022, 03:30 PM
			
			
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			07-07-2022, 03:31 PM
			
			
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				Sens with the robbery. Hawks probably could’ve gotten a package for #2 overall. Yeesh 
			
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Presumably if they could have, they would have.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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