Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[GioforPM]

Depending on the alumni who are around here that's pretty good info. Some are more hooked in than others. Berezan seems pretty in touch with what's going on. Corbet never struck me that way. Commodore just seems to go with his gut.

[howard_the_duck]

Alumni is good intel. Still connected to the players, but also to the front office.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Alumni is good intel. Still connected to the players, but also to the front office.

Some are for sure.

[Monahammer]

The most interesting thing about the larger alumni network chatter is that that's the most likely source so far that may have actual knowledge of Johnny's thoughts, presuming Johnny talks to some of the alumni.

Hope slightly buoyed.

[Flamesfan05]

Even if Johnny wants to come back, it’s more beneficial for him to wait and get Treliving to up the offer

Only question is how long.

[Flamesfan05]

Alumni and people close to him should know if he likes Calgary

They probably don’t know much what offers he is dealing with

[Erick Estrada]

Remember Johnny has said all the right things to the media and the Flames but the reality is that only his inner circle know his true intentions. I doubt any of the alumni are close enough to the Gaudreau's to know as it's not like even Treliving knows what's the final decision is going to be. Johnny has played his cards close to his vest here far better than most UFA's in this situation. We have to be prepared for anything at this stage.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Alumni and people close to him should know if he likes Calgary

They probably don’t know much what offers he is dealing with

I have little doubt Johnny likes Calgary. I think it's well known he believes he's been treated very well here.

The real question is where does he want to play the next 7-8 years?

I have little doubt if he chooses Calgary, a deal will get done.

[CroFlames]

The Johnny and Mony hugging video overlaid with the Titanic theme should be the first post in the new signing thread.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

The Athletic has an article How the Flames drafted Johnny Gaudreau: ‘Who is this little guy?’ that looks to be what a ride and good-bye piece

Is getting Lucic's cap space that much of a priority if the 9.5-10 M put aside for JG is not used?

Somehow I doubt The Athletic Flames writer learns Johnny is leaving and decides to write a piece that seems to involve interviewing a bunch of people and thus probably took days/weeks to put together - instead of just breaking the news like everyone else.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Somehow I doubt The Athletic Flames writer learns Johnny is leaving and decides to write a piece that seems to involve interviewing a bunch of people and thus probably took days/weeks to put together - instead of just breaking the news like everyone else.

If anyone(outside of his immediate family) really knew if Johnny was staying or going, it would get released pretty quickly.

I think if Johnny knew he was definitely leaving he'd tell Treliving right away.

I still think there's a chance he could do either.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

The Johnny and Mony hugging video overlaid with the Titanic theme should be the first post in the new signing thread.

Leo slipping off his plank of wood first post in the Mony trade thread later that day?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

The Athletic has an article How the Flames drafted Johnny Gaudreau: ‘Who is this little guy?’ that looks to be what a ride and good-bye piece

Is getting Lucic's cap space that much of a priority if the 9.5-10 M put aside for JG is not used?

Ya, because that is what it is. I am sure Gaudreau told this writer his intentions so he could write a goodbye piece. Can't wait until he signs so you crawl back in your troll cave.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I have little doubt Johnny likes Calgary. I think it's well known he believes he's been treated very well here.

The real question is where does he want to play the next 7-8 years?

I have little doubt if he chooses Calgary, a deal will get done.

I agree with you but the one thing I think gets passed over here fairly often is that if Gaudreau signs an 8 year deal with the Flames, that’s no guarantee he stays here for all 8 years. It’s reasonable to think the Flames, with Gaudreau and some other key players, will remain competitive for the short term but that can easily change.

He could still find himself in the eastern US down the road.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I agree with you but the one thing I think gets passed over here fairly often is that if Gaudreau signs an 8 year deal with the Flames, that’s no guarantee he stays here for all 8 years. It’s reasonable to think the Flames, with Gaudreau and some other key players, will remain competitive for the short term but that can easily change.

He could still find himself in the eastern US down the road.

Exactly.
If the Flames fail to stay competitive in the next few years, they'll need to trade top players for young assets anyway and not pull another Iginla.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I agree with you but the one thing I think gets passed over here fairly often is that if Gaudreau signs an 8 year deal with the Flames, that’s no guarantee he stays here for all 8 years. It’s reasonable to think the Flames, with Gaudreau and some other key players, will remain competitive for the short term but that can easily change.

He could still find himself in the eastern US down the road.

Agreed. But if he signs here, I think it means this is where he plans to make his home. I don't think Johnny can plan for this not to be an 8 year commitment regardless of what may happen.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

After the signing bonus, Lucic is only owed $1M.

Easily tradable to a team that doesn’t care about a cap hit, or simply wants to reach cap floor.

Well except that he has an 8 team trade list and the teams that don’t care about the cap or trying to reach the floor are likely not on it.

Would be awesome if a team like Arizona was as I’m sure they’d love Lucic but I doubt Lucic wants to go there.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

Well except that he has an 8 team trade list and the teams that don’t care about the cap or trying to reach the floor are likely not on it.

Would be awesome if a team like Arizona was as I’m sure they’d love Lucic but I doubt Lucic wants to go there.

He is much more tradable now than last year

Bingo said he heard they found a home for him so let’s see

[Ryan Coke]

Who knows which way this goes, but his actions so far are completely consistent with someone who intends to return but is trusting his agent to get him the best deal possible.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Remember Johnny has said all the right things to the media and the Flames but the reality is that only his inner circle know his true intentions. I doubt any of the alumni are close enough to the Gaudreau's to know as it's not like even Treliving knows what's the final decision is going to be. Johnny has played his cards close to his vest here far better than most UFA's in this situation. We have to be prepared for anything at this stage.

I would be surprised if Treliving doesn't already have a pretty clear understanding about whether Gaudreau will extend or move on. If there is a sense among a number of the alumni that he will be re-signing, then I doubt this feeling is based on nothing. On the contrary, this aligns with some other things we have seen posted here from other inside sources in the past week or two.