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Old 06-27-2022, 03:40 PM   #6581
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Russia has stepped up their targeting of civilians last couple of days. Just now they blew up a shopping mall well back of the frontlines.

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What happened at that mall is so ####ing disgusting I don't know where to begin. Lot's of chatter on RU Telegram praising this barbaric act.

The end of Russia can't come soon enough.
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Old 06-27-2022, 08:12 PM   #6582
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They are just capping the Russian oil from what I read. Other oil is not being capped. So China and India would pay less for oil than the West would. Basically they don't want to cut the oil available overall, just cut the price on Russian oil by using the fact that all payments flow through G7 countries financial systems.
Interesting, so China and India buy the oil and slightly above the western price from Russia then sell it back to the west taking the profit.

I suppose that would take dollars away from Russia.
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Old 06-27-2022, 09:07 PM   #6583
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Interesting, so China and India buy the oil and slightly above the western price from Russia then sell it back to the west taking the profit.

I suppose that would take dollars away from Russia.
Indian newspapers have claim that this has been happening for months now:

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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...9.cms?from=mdr
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Old 06-27-2022, 09:37 PM   #6584
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Interesting, so China and India buy the oil and slightly above the western price from Russia then sell it back to the west taking the profit.

I suppose that would take dollars away from Russia.
The idea is that China/India buy it at the western set price, with the stick being that they can't use the western banking or insurance apparatus otherwise.
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Old 06-28-2022, 02:34 PM   #6585
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"NATO reaches a deal with Turkey to admit Sweden and Finland, secretary-general says"

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Old 06-28-2022, 02:38 PM   #6586
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I wonder what they gave up to Turkey
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Old 06-28-2022, 03:44 PM   #6587
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I wonder what they gave up to Turkey
On paper it seems like Turkey got its demands regarding arms embargoes against it, support for more involvement in EU activities and greater cooperation on the Kurdish groups Turkey consider terrorists but it's too early to say how big of a win it is.


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Old 06-28-2022, 04:06 PM   #6588
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It would be VERY western power-y to completely sell out the kurds.

Sorry Kurdish peoples
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Old 06-28-2022, 04:13 PM   #6589
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The Turkey situation was always posturing and nothing more. It saw an advantageous situation where it could get something in return and they did.

Playing the politics game is part of life.

On a side note, the HIMARS MLRS has been an outright game changer to the benefit of Ukraine. It allows Ukraine to accurately hit military targets well behind Russian lines with an 83km range, and have proven to be quite devastating. It's believed the Putin emergency meeting was related to its use shocking Russian military brass.

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Anti ship missile that hit the shopping mall caught on video from the factory next door.

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Old 06-28-2022, 05:08 PM   #6591
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It would be VERY western power-y to completely sell out the kurds.

Sorry Kurdish peoples
Off topic, but IMO it's in Turkey's best interest to resolve their conflict with the Kurds peacefully ASAP. Total fertility rate in Turkey is down to 1.70. For the Kurds it's at 3.40. No one knows how many Kurds actually live in Turkey, but the number could be as a high as 25%, with another 20 million Kurds on their borders. The math isn't in Turkey's favor.
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:19 AM   #6592
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.Russians were forced to abandon Snake Island today. MOD claiming it was a gesture of goodwill, but in reality it was untenable being in artillery range from the mainland.

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Maybe they'll withdraw from the rest of Ukraine the bastards
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:07 AM   #6594
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Really hope this isn't true, but looks like the EU is starting to ##### out on sanctions on Kaliningrad.


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Trade through Lithuania to the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad could return to normal within days, two sources familiar with the matter said, as European officials edge towards a compromise deal with the Baltic state to defuse a row with Moscow.
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"We have to face reality," said one person with direct knowledge of the EU discussions, describing Kaliningrad as "sacred" for Moscow.

"(Putin) has much more leverage than we have. It's in our interests to find a compromise," he said, conceding that the eventual outcome may appear unfair.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2022-06-29/

####ing disgusting if true.
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Just. Speechless.

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Old 06-30-2022, 10:13 AM   #6596
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NATO meeting was fruitful, these are apparently new commitments.

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Really hope this isn't true, but looks like the EU is starting to ##### out on sanctions on Kaliningrad.






https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2022-06-29/

####ing disgusting if true.
Cowards.

Squeezing Kaliningrad even further is the answer to force Putin out of Ukraine - not relaxing sanctions.
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Cowards.

Squeezing Kaliningrad even further is the answer to force Putin out of Ukraine - not relaxing sanctions.
I have to think that they must have intelligence that suggests a real possibility of escalation if the blockade of Kaliningrad continues. There is probably something they know that they don't want to share.

Kind of telling though that Lithuania is against lightening up when they are the ones that would be directly in the line of fire if things escalated.

NATO has to be careful how these wedge issue affect their alliance.
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:06 PM   #6599
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"I'd take a bullet for Putin." Step right up, Bernie. Probably no shortage of people willing to pull the trigger, you greasy old ####.
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