Jason Nixon:
"I strongly condemn the racist float that appeared in the Sundre parade. Discrimination has no place in Sundre or anywhere in AB. I have been assured by parade organizers this float was not approved, & that they are putting measures in place so this does not happen in the future."
Its a parade - not some local improv show. You don't need to dress up as the guy for a parade.
I already said the float was dumb and has no place in a community parade.
Ignore the context for a second. I'm just curious as to where the line is if someone wishes to impersonate a guy like Jagmeet? Is it never acceptable for a non-Sikh to wear a turban?
Why is everyone deflecting and not answering the question?
I already said the float was dumb and has no place in a community parade.
Ignore the context for a second. I'm just curious as to where the line is if someone wishes to impersonate a guy like Jagmeet? Is it never acceptable for a non-Sikh to wear a turban?
Why is everyone deflecting and not answering the question?
The answer is yes, it is not acceptable to don clothing from other cultures as part of an effort to delegitimatize and/or lampoon them. I don't think anybody actually thought you were being serious with your question - I guess we overestimated you. Apologies.
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I already said the float was dumb and has no place in a community parade.
Ignore the context for a second. I'm just curious as to where the line is if someone wishes to impersonate a guy like Jagmeet? Is it never acceptable for a non-Sikh to wear a turban?
Why is everyone deflecting and not answering the question?
I'll answer. If you're respecting the religion in their temple, it's fine.
anywhere else, it's not ok for a non-Sikh to wear a turban. I can't imagine an acceptable scenario in Canada in which you'd have the need to wear a turban.
I'll answer. If you're respecting the religion in their temple, it's fine.
anywhere else, it's not ok for a non-Sikh to wear a turban. I can't imagine an acceptable scenario in Canada in which you'd have the need to wear a turban.
But what if you do it while sitting on a manure spreader with political messaging on your tractor? Surely it's okay in that scenario?
I already said the float was dumb and has no place in a community parade.
Ignore the context for a second. I'm just curious as to where the line is if someone wishes to impersonate a guy like Jagmeet? Is it never acceptable for a non-Sikh to wear a turban?
Why is everyone deflecting and not answering the question?
I'm struggling to take your question seriously. As in most things in life, context is everything. You can't just ignore it. ???? Someone wearing a turban to honour a culture is vastly different from them using it as a prop to make a political statement.
You'd think that would be obvious and wouldn't need to be explained out in detail.
The owner of the manure spreader posted on Facebook a month before the parade asking for two volunteers to help with the float. One with an antique tractor to dress as “Trudope” and another with a pink “turbin” to dress as “stinky” - judge for yourselves whether it was meant to be racist or not…
Makes more sense if you’re the average conservative voter. Isn’t there some sort of NDP/Liberal alliance, like officially? I’m that context it makes total sense.
As for Racism, disrespect is not racism. Impersonation is not racism. I’m actually surprised sliver takes issue with a Sikh headdress given his anti religion stance generally. It’s no more off limits than any other symbol.
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No, no…I’m not sloppy, or lazy. This is a sign of the boredom.
It makes less sense and sounds like they are back-tracking their racism
In the FB comments the organizer was looking for volunteers to play Trudeau and Singh, and then was excited to have people lined up to play "Trudope and stinky" and was looking for a "Trudope" mask and a pink "turbin."
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Is it never acceptable for a non-Sikh to wear a turban?
The ethical lines between acceptable and non-acceptable are pretty obvious to anyone with a sense of empathy, IMO. Is it a context in which you can comfortably adopt an item of religious significance infront of members of that community and both you and they would feel comfortable with you doing so? (Such as, for example, when Sikhs sometimes have a booth set up on Canada Day where they show you how to tie and wear a turban and will discuss its significance in their culture and religion with you.)
Would this person in the parade do so if there were Sikhs who are prominent members of his community? Would he be comfortable doing this outside a Sikh temple in Calgary and interacting with Sikhs who see him there? Would Sikhs, after hearing his explanation for dressing up in this way, accept that explanation? If the answer to any of those questions are no, then it's not okay.
I'm not saying that it should be viewed as a hate crime or be made illegal to do so, but I am saying that being socially castigated for doing so is a valid and deserved outcome.
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The answer is yes, it is not acceptable to don clothing from other cultures as part of an effort to delegitimatize and/or lampoon them. I don't think anybody actually thought you were being serious with your question - I guess we overestimated you. Apologies.
Fair enough, I think there's some validity to the argument about lampooning someone using cultural dress as an identifier. Thanks to those who are willing to engage in a discussion on this!
That brings up an interesting aside regarding political cartoons. Things like the below are clearly designed to lampoon Singh the individual but they are also exaggerating the way he dresses and looks for comedic effect. Is stuff like this okay?
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Originally Posted by Sliver
I don't think anybody actually thought you were being serious with your question - I guess we overestimated you. Apologies.
Here is a better question. You're the intended audience for the joke. Was it funny?
I'm not the intended audience, but yeah it's funny to have a manure spreader with a politician riding on it. It really doesn't matter which politician, it's funny to me.
