Also though it was clever how they cleaned up the "Darth" greeting in ANH,
while also giving a good explanation on Leah's message with R2D2 to Obi in ANH.
(A bit cryptic in saying "you served with my father in the clone wars...", Obi had coached Leia in being discreet when they said goodbye)
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Speaking of all the parallels between ROTS and this final episode, I thought it was a nice call back when they're about to fight and Obi-Wan says "I will do what I must", and then this time we get vader saying "you will DIE" instead of "you will try" from ROTS.
What a great episode, really saved the series for me and tied up most of the loose ends. I'd still love to hear more dialogue between Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan but even that short appearance was awesome!
Curious what Disney's plans are for Reva now, does she show up in Ahsoka/Andor? Does she get her own spin-off? Definitely feels like Obi-Wan could show up in the Andor show based on those last comments with Organa.
Speaking of all the parallels between ROTS and this final episode, I thought it was a nice call back when they're about to fight and Obi-Wan says "I will do what I must", and then this time we get vader saying "you will DIE" instead of "you will try" from ROTS.
What a great episode, really saved the series for me and tied up most of the loose ends. I'd still love to hear more dialogue between Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan but even that short appearance was awesome!
Curious what Disney's plans are for Reva now, does she show up in Ahsoka/Andor? Does she get her own spin-off? Definitely feels like Obi-Wan could show up in the Andor show based on those last comments with Organa.
There are mutterings of a own series for Reva, I don't know, I'd like to see them end of arc with the redemptive moment and her fading out of history.
I'd also like to keep Obi seperate from the Rebellion at large, like no appearances in Andor, etc. I honestly don't think that at the time Obi would have time or care for the actual Rebellion, he knows that Luke and Leia are the future for destroying the Sith and bringing balance. What I liked about Rogue One is that there were no Jedi as part of the at large Rebellion. I'd like to see a season 2 of Kenobi with him helping the underground rail road in aiding lost Jedi, and at the end of the rescue Ben telling them that they are not Jedi anymore, to go live a normal life, that the time of the Jedi is over.
I'd like to see more general brutality from Vader that's not focused around the hunting of Jedi. For him like in Rebels, giving that job to the Inquistors so he can focus around the overall goal of bringing peace and order and prosperity to his Empire no matter how many people he has to kill. .
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Speaking of all the parallels between ROTS and this final episode, I thought it was a nice call back when they're about to fight and Obi-Wan says "I will do what I must", and then this time we get vader saying "you will DIE" instead of "you will try" from ROTS.
What a great episode, really saved the series for me and tied up most of the loose ends. I'd still love to hear more dialogue between Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan but even that short appearance was awesome!
Curious what Disney's plans are for Reva now, does she show up in Ahsoka/Andor? Does she get her own spin-off? Definitely feels like Obi-Wan could show up in the Andor show based on those last comments with Organa.
I dont know...there might be something interesting in that time period that focuses on the Inquisitors in general, but not every mildly interesting character needs their own dedicated spin-off. Disney is going to have to lean out their content a little at some point.
I did like that they ended on the high note of Kenobi meeting Luke and "Hello There" as well as the appearance of Qui Gon.
But of course he was going to show up. For all his bluster, have you seen half the crap Liam Neeson is in lately? That guy will do literally anything for a paycheque and is absolutely not above snatching some cash for a few minutes in Star Wars.
Neeson is entering the territory where he's nearly an exclusively 'B' movie actor. He hasnt turned down work 'on artistic merit' for nearly a decade so I'd bet he'd latch onto Star Wars like Grim Death if he gets the opportunity to cash in on a character that still has some soul left in it.
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I'd like characters to earn their own shows by either being around long enough to have a bit of lore/background or fans actually expressing interest in seeing more of them.
What did Reva do to warrant a spin off? Even the most favorable audiences were probably just lukewarm on her.
And that's entirely on the writing. Her arc just wasn't very good overall. And there was nothing satisfying about her "redemption".
Just.. "Good, you stopped deciding to be a terrible person because of a childhood trauma. Can we go see what Obi Wan is doing now?"
Disney seems to be playing it by ear and giving the audience what they want. I can't imagine that the audience response to Reva was so great, that they'd consider giving the characters her own show. That being said, my review circle is somewhat limited demographically. Maybe the response to her wasn't as negative as I perceive.
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Totally agree that Reva doesn't warrant a spin-off, I think there's a ton of interesting characters that they could follow up on if they want to explore this time period further. If they are gonna do something like that during this time of the empire they could just do a Quinlan-Vos series or something. But this is still Disney so as soon as you think you know what they're gonna do with Star Wars, they go the opposite direction.
I'm really torn on whether they should do another season of Obi-Wan, I think they managed to end it in a great place but I'd happily watch more Ewan/Hayden content if they did decide to go that direction. Or maybe they go with a Vader show that takes place immediately after Obi-Wan? I'd be all over that. It's pretty clear from the fan reaction that people were excited to have those two back in the SW universe.
Very satisfied with the final episode, but agree, Reva's ending didn't give me or my small group of friends any desire to see more of her. Let that arc end here.
The thing is....maybe what they should explore is more smaller, limited series options?
So instead of Reva having a whole show, maybe write something up that fits in the timeline of other stories you want to tell within a specific framework of your world and intertwine them for like 6 or 8 episodes and then move along?
You know...like 'World Building.'
Walk across the studio parking lot to those clowns over at Marvel who basically re-wrote the 'World Building For Dummies' Handbook and ask them how its done?
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Totally agree that Reva doesn't warrant a spin-off, I think there's a ton of interesting characters that they could follow up on if they want to explore this time period further. If they are gonna do something like that during this time of the empire they could just do a Quinlan-Vos series or something. But this is still Disney so as soon as you think you know what they're gonna do with Star Wars, they go the opposite direction.
I'm really torn on whether they should do another season of Obi-Wan, I think they managed to end it in a great place but I'd happily watch more Ewan/Hayden content if they did decide to go that direction. Or maybe they go with a Vader show that takes place immediately after Obi-Wan? I'd be all over that. It's pretty clear from the fan reaction that people were excited to have those two back in the SW universe.
I'd love a show about Vader, it'd be strange for a Disney series to be about a genocidal maniac slaughtering millions.
But I think that because Vader will literally be the unbeatable bad guy that its shelf life would be short.
I'd rather have an almost Buddy Cop version of Vader and Palpatine hanging out in the Imperial Palace shooting pool, and snarking each other like the odd couple.
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That was a great episode. I didn't hate the Reva storyline as much as others but it did feel a bit flat because we don't have a connection to her like the other character.
There was a lot of projecting about Reva's conflict. They could have given us an interesting 10 minutes of her growing up, being indoctrinated, trained, etc that might have given us some more backstory to help us relate to who she is. We've never seen Sith/Inquisitor training before on the screen (maybe in the books but I've only read a few) so it would have been cool to see.
Not sure what else I can say that hasn't been said. The final two episodes, and especially the finale were close to perfect.
The Vader vs Obi-Wan fight sequence was absolutely sublime, and the dialogue scene at the end of it was perfect. Anakin struggling to breathe, the uber evil smile, Ewan's acting, the voice module malfunctioning going between JEJ and Hayden's voice, the light of the light sabers shining on his face, like I mean that scene was perfection.
"Hello there" was fan service done right.
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That was a great episode. I didn't hate the Reva storyline as much as others but it did feel a bit flat because we don't have a connection to her like the other character.
There was a lot of projecting about Reva's conflict. They could have given us an interesting 10 minutes of her growing up, being indoctrinated, trained, etc that might have given us some more backstory to help us relate to who she is. We've never seen Sith/Inquisitor training before on the screen (maybe in the books but I've only read a few) so it would have been cool to see.
To be clear, I didnt 'hate' the Reva storyline, I agree with you, it just felt a bit flat. I didnt find it all that compelling, which it well could have been it just didnt have much in the way of punch.
It felt shoe-horned in.
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I tend to agree with the Reva story being flat or being the victim of flawed execution, probably because this season was only 6 episodes
1) When she told Obi that Anakin was alive and Vader, right at that point for whatever reason the whole backstory and her intent snapped into place. Especially if you paid attention to the very first scene in the series. I mean the likely hood of anyone but Sidious and maybe Tarkin knowing that Anakin was Vader was unlikely.
2) Because they rushed her character, they made her behavior almost un Inquisitor like. We've seen Inquisitors in Rebels, and the other three inquisitors in the series weren't driven by casual brutality and they were business like. Reva was over the top. And I'm not begrudging Moses work, but she came across as a cosplayer playing Inquisitor and there was no nuance to it.
3) Her attack on Vader was kind of silly, she basically saw him pull a ship out of the sky and shred it with the force, and she does the screaming attack. Sith live on guile.
4) They lost a real opportunity in the redemption. Reva was there as a tool to show that Obi-Wan couldn't redeem Vader but could still redeem someone on the ledge between good and evil. She reached her own conclusions. It would have been more powerful and better executed if Obi caught up to Reva as she stood over Luke with her light saber ignited. And Ben was able to talk her into letting go of her hate, and rage and need for vengeance.
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In fact, Leia, Luke, Obi, Vader, Owen, Beru all surviving these major conflicts completely caught me off guard. What a cop out lol
In all seriousness though I thought Reva would have died seeing as how we know going in all those other characters would make it. I figured as a tragic figure she'd have a redemption in the end and then be killed off in a heroic way somehow.
All good though. Loved the show. Seeing prime Vader on screen was great and McGregor is just awesome. Really hope they find a way to make another season. I know they wrapped up the Maul storyline but I'd love to see a live version with McGregor.
Looking forward to Bad Batch, Ashoka, Mando and Andor.
In fact, Leia, Luke, Obi, Vader, Owen, Beru all surviving these major conflicts completely caught me off guard. What a cop out lol
In all seriousness though I thought Reva would have died seeing as how we know going in all those other characters would make it. I figured as a tragic figure she'd have a redemption in the end and then be killed off in a heroic way somehow.
All good though. Loved the show. Seeing prime Vader on screen was great and McGregor is just awesome. Really hope they find a way to make another season. I know they wrapped up the Maul storyline but I'd love to see a live version with McGregor.
Looking forward to Bad Batch, Ashoka, Mando and Andor.
