Coyotes are moving into a new arena this September
In all seriousness I think the Tempe arena will probably be done first because it's supposedly going to be privately funded. The Ottawa and Calgary groups are going to run into a lot more opposition re: their funding schemes.
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I'm pretty sure the Corral demolition site would be a nicer baseball venue at this point.
Yeah the state of the city's sporting facilities is pretty sad. Feels like we are the Oakland of Canada. This used to be the city that got things done and it's done a complete 180 where smaller cities like Regina and Winnipeg can manage to get done what Calgary can't. Sad times I'm afraid.
This was Rogers Place about a year and a half before groundbreaking...
The Community Rink took the brunt of the value engineering. The rest of the exterior mostly survived, but reality doesn't look quite as slick as the renderings.
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And of course, there's this...
Glass curtain walls look great in renderings but they're almost-always the first casualty when things actually get built.
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It isn't fancy but they just renovated it in 2018 or 2019 (or both). It looks much nicer than it did before but your comment really shocked me. I haven't been to any stadiums in Calgary since I lived there in the 80s but I wouldn't expect Lethbridge to have anything nicer than something in Calgary.
Those renderings above were only for massing purposes to show the volumes of a possible arena and the rest of Stampede Trail, and future street activation. That was never a real design to begin with.
If only they weren't tied to milking the public purse.
Building a modern NHL-grade arena in a city the size of Calgary is a guaranteed way to lose money. Every city where such arenas have been built entirely with private money was at least double our size, with one exception.
The Ottawa Senators built their current arena with their own money: the public financing they received was less than the money they spent to build a highway interchange which they did not even own. They were unable to service the resulting debt, and the club's holding company went bankrupt. And that was for a building that cost only $170 million to begin with.
That's the economic reality. No public funds means no arena at all.
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Building a modern NHL-grade arena in a city the size of Calgary is a guaranteed way to lose money. Every city where such arenas have been built entirely with private money was at least double our size, with one exception.
The Ottawa Senators built their current arena with their own money: the public financing they received was less than the money they spent to build a highway interchange which they did not even own. They were unable to service the resulting debt, and the club's holding company went bankrupt. And that was for a building that cost only $170 million to begin with.
That's the economic reality. No public funds means no arena at all.
UBS was privately funded and if I'm not mistaken Nassau county is about the same population as Calgary or maybe smaller.
UBS was privately funded and if I'm not mistaken Nassau county is about the same population as Calgary or maybe smaller.
Sure, and if Nassau county was surrounded by 150 miles of farmland, they might be comparable. 8 million people live on Long Island and 20 million are in the NYC metro area.
It's also on State-owned land, so even though the building was privately financed, there was public involvement.
UBS paid $300 million USD over 20 years for the naming rights of the building. The new arena in Calgary will be lucky to get 10% of that.
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Sure, and if Nassau county was surrounded by 150 miles of farmland, they might be comparable. 8 million people live on Long Island and 20 million are in the NYC metro area.
It's also on State-owned land, so even though the building was privately financed, there was public involvement.
UBS paid $300 million USD over 20 years for the naming rights of the building. The new arena in Calgary will be lucky to get 10% of that.
Surely CNRL wants naming rights for an arena too at the same tune of $300M per 20.
