[PGT] Flames lose game 3 by a score of 4-1

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by browna

11 minutes left in a 4 goal deficit?

Lucic was likely to see the ice another 2 or 3 minutes that game at most, and if the Flames got a few more goalsz even less.

He did his job tonight...Smith will say he's not rattled but his nose will grow as he says that. He's going to "try harder" to best the Flames and an over emotional Smith is a Smith the Flames want to play.

This. If the Lucic hit rattled Smith and made him pissed that's worth the penalty. Other goalie when they are pissed they tend to dialed in. Smith is the opposite, when he's pissed, he dialed out.

[Wastedyouth]

Down 2-1 in the Dallas Series too.

Flames wont give up.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

They need to feel confident in front of their goalie for a game.

Stop giving up 2 on 1s and leaving him out to dry then. The way he played in the first should have gave them confidence. They didn't respond and instead played stupid.

[browna]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

They need to feel confident in front of their goalie for a game.

They're not in front of Markstrom. It is what it is. This isn't a slight on Markstrom. It's about playing the chess game, damn it.

If he let in a bad leaky goal or two today, after the first two games, maybe, maybe you have a point.

The Oilers got all their goals off speed and odd man rushes tonight.

If Flames have to collapse in front of their goalie, as they do for Vladar, it means they cant make those offensive risks that has made them such a dangerous team this year.

[Samonadreau]

[Shazam]

Well this didn’t end too horribly.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Just looked like the Flames were happy to be playing.

No intensity. No willingness to do what it takes.

I think Sutter has to answer for the fact his team looks nothing close to the one that would leave it all on the ice. Which is what a Sutter team does.

I think the Star series took so much mental and physical energy, that they don't have anything left.

[oldschoolcalgary]

sure feels like the the Defense is overmatched... and not just against McDraividane either...

Defense is playing on its heels; sagging as the Oilers are attacking with speed at the blueline and then sending guys into the wake of that that sagging.

Also seems like the Flames breakout is broken...like the Oilers have downloaded it. Flames can't seem to generate anything attacking as they are scrambling in the neutral zone trying to recover from a messed up breakout.

the forwards need to help slow things down defensively so the Oilers are going more east/west when they enter the attacking zone as opposed to North/South which they are doing, seemingly, at will right now...

While Calgary was down 2-1 versus Dallas, the actual game play is not comparable at all...Calgary owned Dallas. I would not say the same about the Oilers.

[Yobbo]

Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta

Zero karma for Kane I guess. Further Proof that there is no god.


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Or maybe for an even better effect, God, swings the series our way and makes it even more painful for, Kane?

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by browna

Which of the odd man rushes should he have saved?

Oilers killed 3 minutes of a powerplay in the third, they wanted nothing to do with playing anymore, so translating that into the Flames playing better in front of Vladar is very naive.

How many did Smith stop tonight? Markstrom's number against the Oilers paint a clear picture of a guy who can't play that team.

15 goals in three games. He isn't getting it done, period.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I think the Star series took so much mental and physical energy, that they don't have anything left.

What are you talking about. The Stars series was probably the easiest 7 game series. Flames outshot them 50-20 every game and just kept playing their game

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Yamer

"They called it charging, right? Can you imagine if Looch charged?" - Darryl Sutter

My thoughts exactly. If Looch actually wanted to hit him hard, Smith would be leaving the ice on a stretcher.

Bad play that deserved a penalty but 5 minutes is ridiculous. Then a makeup call on McDavid after the game was out of reach.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Well this didn’t end too horribly.

How so? Worst effort of the playoffs.

At least we could chalk up game 2 to some bad mistakes.

That might have been the worst the Flames looked in months.

No sugarcoating that stinker.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Honest question, what does moving Jarnkrok to the wing accomplish? Is he that bad? Yes, he hasn't score yet, what's his faceoff percentage? In moving him out of the lineup, who to put in? Carpenter? In the game he was in during the regular season, he wasn't that noticeable. Ruzicka? Putting a rookie that rarely played in regular season in the heat of the playoff?

- Jarnkrok has always played his best career hockey on wing. A better question would be why we have him at centre.
- faceoff percentage is a red herring. It always has been.
- Ruzicka was simply outplaying every centre on this team outside of Backlund and Lindholm at one point in the season, including Monahan, Lewis, etc. Then we traded for Jarnkrok and the bottom six has been worse, since. Toffoli's best game as a Flame came with Ruzicka centering him. So what if he is a rookie? Hanifin is a 400+ game pro and looks clueless out there. Let the player's play decide their value on the ice, not their seniority.

[browna]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

This. If the Lucic hit rattled Smith and made him pissed that's worth the penalty. Other goalie when they are pissed they tend to dialed in. Smith is the opposite, when he's pissed, he dialed out.

It's not the hit physical hit. He was fine. Him holding his head was to protect from the like but got the concussion protocol.
But look what that did (and the Oilers time wasting to actually get him back in net), having to go off and come on...he gets scored on the first shot and looks terrible in doing so.

Mission accomplished by Lucic, again, Smith will be asked about the hit and orotolc and bouncing back, and just him having to answer that stuff will distract him just like the protocol did.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by troutman

Game 4 becomes biggest Flames game since 2004. We shall see what they are made of.

Yes, Game 4 will be a huge game.

A must-win for sure.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by browna

If he let in a bad leaky goal or two today, after the first two games, maybe, maybe you have a point.

The Oilers got all their goals off speed and odd man rushes tonight.

If Flames have to collapse in front of their goalie, as they do for Vladar, it means they cant make those offensive risks that has made them such a dangerous team this year.

He's allowed to make hard saves as well. Smith made some great saves tonight.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I can't believe people are talking about Markstrom after that game. The difference in the game was three Evander Kane goals, all of which had him going in on the goalie alone after receiving a pass from the best offensive player in the world. Those plays SHOULD result in goals. The pass needs to not get through, or at least not get through cleanly so that he can make a backhand deke at the top of the crease.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Stop giving up 2 on 1s and leaving him out to dry then. The way he played in the first should have gave them confidence. They didn't respond and instead played stupid.

Not only giving up 2 on 1, they gave up 2 on 1 to the most dangerous player on the ice.

[Yobbo]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I think the Star series took so much mental and physical energy, that they don't have anything left.

Oh get real. If they're that mentally weak then they don't deserve to win.