Re Hrudey. I tried to find it online but couldn't. There was some mention that Hrudey did not like his experiences with "tough" coaches like Sutter and Larry Robinson. I did find a quote from Sutter about Hrudey that was really very complimentary, speaking about how he was de facto captain of the team and he felt bad that he did not get Hrudey until the end of his career. Others have talked about Hrudey thinking Sutter ended his career pre-maturely.
A big part, if not all of it is that with Hrudey's mental health background and being a major mental health advocate, he's said that he's not a fan of how "tough" Sutter is on his players.
It's clouded his judgement ever since Sutter arrived, no matter how many former players came forward praising Darryl.
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Hanifin was a big part of the good stuff in OT and if not for a loose goal stick, he'd have been the hero. Led the team in shots.
Yeah, he was on the ice when Benn scored. So was Lindholm and it was Lindholm's man. and their second goal was (a) Rasmus didn't get it deep, Hanifin had to cover the centre and no one took the RW. Neither Gaudreau, who was late on the backcheck or Lindholm, who got sucked way over on the left to the puck carrier (who Rasmus was already checking).
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hahaha. and was I wrong? Gio hasn't even been close to elite after his Norris winning season. and Hanifin is good but I wouldn't classify him as elite.
Remember all those posters who guaranteed Gio was going to return a 1st rounder at the trade deadline?
He netted two 2nds and a 3rd. I guess that's no a 1st but it's pretty good value.
No info about what "reaction to treatment" caused Hintz to be a late scratch for Game 7. Did they try to give him an injection and hit a nerve or something? Maybe they gave him some Brain and Nerve Tonic and his head swelled up like Ken Griffey Jr on the Simpsons?
No info about what "reaction to treatment" caused Hintz to be a late scratch for Game 6. Did they try to give him an injection and hit a nerve or something? Maybe they gave him some Brain and Nerve Tonic and his head swelled up like Ken Griffey Jr on the Simpsons?
We were never truculent when Burke was here and that pissed me off to no end. Like why was he even here? other than to be with his daughter going to school in Calgary.
Easiest team to play against for the past 10 years.
Hmm, I would personally argue against this, under Burke and Treliving we had Big Ern, Westgarth, Ferland and the epic Engelland 1v2 vs the Canucks. Then after Burkie left and we had to rely on concussion history Ferland, broken jaw Hamonic, and 18 year old Sam Bennett to fight, things really turned to hell in a handbasket.
I remember specifically about Monahan and Gaudreau's rookie years about how they were able to play how they wanted because they could let the big boys handle the rough stuff. Things have been somewhat better after adding Lucic but having some other big boys to police the ice with him have really changed things, they have that backbone again.
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Hmm, I would personally argue against this, under Burke and Treliving we had Big Ern, Westgarth, Ferland and the epic Engelland 1v2 vs the Canucks. Then after Burkie left and we had to rely on concussion history Ferland, broken jaw Hamonic, and 18 year old Sam Bennett to fight, things really turned to hell in a handbasket.
I remember specifically about Monahan and Gaudreau's rookie years about how they were able to play how they wanted because they could let the big boys handle the rough stuff. Things have been somewhat better after adding Lucic but having some other big boys to police the ice with him have really changed things, they have that backbone again.
We had no hard hitting dmen other than Engelland. That's where the playoffs are won. Also McGratton and Westgarth played what? 6-7mins a game?
and like I said, if you don't sweep us or win in 5 you aren't winning the series against us.
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hahaha. and was I wrong? Gio hasn't even been close to elite after his Norris winning season. and Hanifin is good but I wouldn't classify him as elite.
Remember all those posters who guaranteed Gio was going to return a 1st rounder at the trade deadline?
Gio thrived under Sutter and the stats show it. He's going to play in this league for a long time because of his great hockey iq and work ethic. He doesn't need to be a Norris calibre defenseman anymore at his age, especially with the elite young defensemen in the league now who are taking over.
I'm not the biggest fan of Hanifin either, but I think he'll have a much better performance against the Oilers than he did against the Stars. He was targeted and pounded by a big, heavy Stars' forecheck and his warts showed. But the Oilers aren't built like the Stars, they don't play the same style, so I doubt Hanifin will have as much trouble. Think he and Rasmus will do much better in a series like this actually.
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Gio thrived under Sutter and the stats show it. He's going to play in this league for a long time because of his great hockey iq and work ethic. He doesn't need to be a Norris calibre defenseman anymore at his age, especially with the elite young defensemen in the league now who are taking over.
I'm not the biggest fan of Hanifin either, but I think he'll have a much better performance against the Oilers than he did against the Stars. He was targeted and pounded by a big, heavy Stars' forecheck and his warts showed. But the Oilers aren't built like the Stars, they don't play the same style, so I doubt Hanifin will have as much trouble. Think he and Rasmus will do much better in a series like this actually.
I think the wheels will come off faster than you think with Gio.
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Hmm, I would personally argue against this, under Burke and Treliving we had Big Ern, Westgarth, Ferland and the epic Engelland 1v2 vs the Canucks. Then after Burkie left and we had to rely on concussion history Ferland, broken jaw Hamonic, and 18 year old Sam Bennett to fight, things really turned to hell in a handbasket.
I remember specifically about Monahan and Gaudreau's rookie years about how they were able to play how they wanted because they could let the big boys handle the rough stuff. Things have been somewhat better after adding Lucic but having some other big boys to police the ice with him have really changed things, they have that backbone again.
Burke was fine. It was our blowhard former GM (and related coach) who wanted no part of anything tough because they were worried about being in the box. And he said the opposite of what Sutter had said before him, simply to try and be the contraian and win some cheap fan support.
In a matter of two games Lee Stemoniak got bullied and forced into 2 fights, one vs Dallas. No Flame came in and took pound of flesh.
Next game he hammered Ference hard with a clean check and Ference started throwing punches...on Lee Stempniak. Again, no Flames response that game or any subsequent games. Cowardly.
Who cares about the circus act Hartley threw out in Vancouver, when he lets a scrub on the Oilers take liberties with one of our skilled forwards to zero retribution.
I think the wheels will come off faster than you think with Gio.
Gio’s speed is already a problem for him. His mobility has already faded, his turns and pivots are definitely weaknesses. But like Chara, he takes really good care of his body and always stays as fit as possible.
But when you think the game at Gio’s level and you never take a shift off, you’re gonna get work. His timing today is still picture perfect: Great stick checks, well timed blocks, knows when to use the body, can take a hit to make a play, smart pinches, strong at the blueline, the poise, the willingness to sacrifice. The list goes on and on.
Heck, I thought he was the best skater on the ice in the couple games he played us. That doesn’t sound like a guy whose game is ready to fall off a cliff.
No info about what "reaction to treatment" caused Hintz to be a late scratch for Game 7. Did they try to give him an injection and hit a nerve or something? Maybe they gave him some Brain and Nerve Tonic and his head swelled up like Ken Griffey Jr on the Simpsons?
Bowness said that Hintz had a bad reaction to the treatment for his oblique injury @ 1:36
A big part, if not all of it is that with Hrudey's mental health background and being a major mental health advocate, he's said that he's not a fan of how "tough" Sutter is on his players.
It's clouded his judgement ever since Sutter arrived, no matter how many former players came forward praising Darryl.
He said in his book how he wasn't a fan of Sutter during his time in San Jose when Sutter was coach there.
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He said in his book how he wasn't a fan of Sutter during his time in San Jose when Sutter was coach there.
Not to mention last month when he showed a montage of Woodcroft in Edmonton answering questions vs Sutter and directly indicted Sutter for being horrible to deal with. I love Hrudey but he clearly hates Sutter enough to speak to it publicly.
Not to mention last month when he showed a montage of Woodcroft in Edmonton answering questions vs Sutter and directly indicted Sutter for being horrible to deal with. I love Hrudey but he clearly hates Sutter enough to speak to it publicly.
Sour grapes, Hrudey was brutal in San Jose, he won 4 games in 22 starts and was massively out played by Mike Vernon. He didn't know it but he was finished and Sutter knew it. And knowing Sutter he told him so!
