[PGT] Flames lose 4-2, trail series 2-1

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Completely disagree. Was the best Flame on the ice tonight.

He got badly outplayed by Trevor Lewis. It actually wasn’t even close.

[Dion]

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[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Yes he is, 110%. Sutter nailed it by calling him out.

Aside from not scoring though, gotta elevate play on playoffs and get intense. Gotta start playing hard.

I think we already know what Gaudreau is, we have seen him do this for years. Shrinks, afraid and can’t play intense in playoffs. The thought of him going to dirty areas or blocking a shot is laughable. Gaudreau can’t or won’t do it, like Monahan.

Gaudreau should absolutely be called out, and we needed him to score there not wilt away and be meek. He scored a billion points in the playoffs and had a breakaway against a rookie, he should be more
Confident and put that in the ####in net. Ffs, you’re Johnny Gaudreau. Stop being so scared, it’s pathetic.

It is also not a size thing, as Mangiapane did it tonight more or less. Johnny can’t or won’t though. It’s button hooks and perimeter play and self doubt. That’s what Johnny is in the playoffs and why it’s so damn ridiculous when he gets 115 pts in the season. Where does his confidence go?

I guess we view things differently. The middle six of this team has done nothing in three games. That’s the issue. The problem on the top line right now is Tkachuk. What little goal production we have this series has gone through Gaudreau. And one goal from the fourth line. Laying this on Johnny is misguided and blind to the real issue. Our middle six are getting dominated.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Agreed. Playoffs are where the money is at. Flames missed the boat by jacking up prices 10% and placing the renewal date on May 16. Gives us enough time to not renew if they flame out in the 1st round. Frankly for me this team doesn’t get another cent of mine until they play in the second round. Could be another 10 years based on the pace they have been running the last 32.

Agree. I’ve been a STH since the team arrived in Calgary. If they don’t win this series I’m not renewing next year.

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

He got badly outplayed by Trevor Lewis. It actually wasn’t even close.

Lol

[FlamesAreOne]

Sick of our stars being mostly worthless.

[craigsol]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Agree. I’ve been a STH since the team arrived in Calgary. If they don’t win this series I’m not renewing next year.

Also won’t be renewing if they don’t make it out of this series. What the point?

[Joborule]

Two things that have bothered me this season is the Flames inability to comeback if they don't score the first goal of the game, and the Flames overtime record.

There are those that argue that 3-on-3 hockey is not playoff hockey, but it still gives indication of how clutch the team/players are when dealing with a high stakes situation. And I feel this team doesn't pass the eye test when things aren't going perfect for them.

They have to be playing with the lead in order to be comfortable. If they face adversity where they need to rally from behind to tie, and then try to get the lead, they haven't shown tendencies that they can pull that off consistently. With this playoff series against a team where they are being contained, it's exposing the Flames as a team that can't win games where they're required to comeback.

It's a symptom of the team's lack of resiliency. Sutter has done a great job to make the core of the team be good at always dictating the play, and normally not playing from behind. But in the playoffs when you're facing the same opponent over and over, against a team that's being responsible enough defensively, and a goalie that's not gonna give up bad goals, that's a lot harder to attain.

If you're gonna be a playoff team that can win a round, you have to be able to win from behind. I seriously doubt the Flames ability to do that. Everything has to be perfect for them to win, and that's just not how this works; especially in the playoffs. The team is not clutch. The Johnny breakaway near the end is the epitome of the Flames playoff history.

[Mr.Coffee]

Losing some STHs might be a blessing in disguise though as maybe the ones that replace you guys will always wear red and cheer loudly.

Dallas crowd embarrassed the C of red tonight.

Yeah yeah, “more exciting” or some nonsense.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by DJones

Honestly pay Gaudreau, can't lose him.

But I'd rather trade Tkachuk than give him 10 million and buyout Monahan.

That is my thinking as well. Tkachuk is a goner. Recoup some picks and move on. Ottawa might be interested. I have lost alot of respect for him with all this Klingberg fighting stuff. Completely distracting and risking injury. Cannot skate well enough to make an impact in the playoffs either.

Johnny won't take 9 mill which is all he is worth given his mediocre playoff performances. He will end up somewhere else.

Bottomline line is that I have seen enough to know this core won't win us a Stanley Cup. What is the point committing 20 mill+ for the next half decade or longer for them.

[craigsol]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Losing some STHs might be a blessing in disguise though as maybe the ones that replace you guys will always wear red and cheer loudly.

Dallas crowd embarrassed the C of red tonight.

Yeah yeah, “more exciting” or some nonsense.

Lol give me a break

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TheChief

lol do yourself a favor my dude and turn off the internet for the night.

Oh? Just figured since everyone else was getting ahead of themselves, I’d join in.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Losing some STHs might be a blessing in disguise though as maybe the ones that replace you guys will always wear red and cheer loudly.

Dallas crowd embarrassed the C of red tonight.

Yeah yeah, “more exciting” or some nonsense.

No Blasty, white, or 2011 Heritage Classic jersey here in games 1&2. Also cheered myself hoarse. Fans have done enough over 32 years to deserve to watch 2nd round hockey more than once every 15 years. Based on the regular season attendance (not including Covid restricted games) the ‘replacement’ is an empty seat and that seat wears blue and doesn’t cheer.

[shadowlord]

The middle six are completely AWOL. But changing the lines isn't going to fix the problem. The Stars are fast on the forecheck, forcing our D to make bad decisions with the puck, usually resulting in turnovers, and they clogging up the middle so it screws up our breakouts.

Flames are also attempting a lot of through Dallas players' legs that get picked off. I didn't comment on it during the regular season because the seemed to be successful, but now those pass attempts are failing a lot.

If the Flames don't change their style to counter Dallas' plans, game 4 and the series is going to be a loss. I love Sutter as a coach, but making this adjustment is all on him.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by craigsol

Lol give me a break

Did you not think they were much, much louder? Pretty much the whole game?

I don’t know where Flames fans got this sense that they are the best it is bizarre. The place is a library and usually in playoffs it gets louder but 2004 was nearly 20 years ago and there are a large number of folks not wearing red. Maybe 10%. Might be a building thing on loudness but even if you watch the replay on those Flames goals in the first 2 games of this series, there was a camera pan with a lot of people not cheering.

Seriously, C of Red ain’t what it used to be and Dallas’ crowd was better. I will admit the game was way better tonight, but it’s been disappointing for sure so far. People need to ####ing cheer. It isn’t hard.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

No Blasty, white, or 2011 Heritage Classic jersey here in games 1&2. Also cheered myself hoarse. Fans have done enough over 32 years to deserve to watch 2nd round hockey more than once every 15 years.

Pretty much this. Flames fans should have more to cheer about than constant first round exits or missed playoffs for decades on end. A run to the conference finals every now and then doesn't seem like an outlandish thing to expect.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by blender

Some embarrassing takes here.
I know it a race to be the edgiest of the edgelords, but seriously, be better, CP.

We are all just venting. Most of us will be back for more punishment Monday.

Yes the series could still turn in our favor but history would suggest otherwise.

This core does not have what it takes in the playoffs!

Mentally extremely fragile and physically not willing to do what it takes.

I thought Markstrom and Sutter were enough to change that but perhaps not...

[djsFlames]

Difficult day outside of hockey.

Made hockey rather inconsequential, but a win would've been a lovely little pick me up. When it rains it pours I guess.

Thought we had them on the ropes but let up after getting the lead.

The very least we can do is outwork them. Didnt kick it into high gear (where we should've been all series) until 7 minutes left.

Matthew Tkachuk, where are you? Do you really want to earn the label of the guy that fades away in the post season?

Let's go buddy.

Anyways I'm not panicked. I think this thing goes 7 games given how tightly contested it is. Has the makings of that kind of series.

Like the Washington Capitals pre-2018, these guys just need to overcome themselves and break through.

Post-season futility, like the Anaheim Curse doesn't last forever.

I hope to see this place happy and upbeat again soon. Until then, hold tight and don't lose say too much that you'll regret.

[dino7c]

Shesterkin allowed 4 goals on 15 shots and was pulled

Markstrom allowed 4 in 3 games "not elite"

That is not venting that is just stupid

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Chingas

Take a hike punk.

This fan base is mentally weak.