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Old 05-06-2022, 10:41 AM   #6061
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There were some conflicting reports and evidence about the Moskva, but ultimately it was true she sank.

I have to think the rumors of this ship are also true, and the Makarov will sleep with the fishes tonight.
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Old 05-06-2022, 11:06 AM   #6062
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If you could see a clear objective for Russia in this conflict, you could somehow rationalize their commitment to it despite the huge material losses.

But I can't see WHY they are in Ukraine at all, and why they are sticking with it after losing literal BILLIONS of dollars worth of equipment. For what? Not to mention the sanctions that will carry on.

Just GTFO of Ukraine, and go back to playing King of the land peacefully.
Hard to admit you've screwed up. Particular when a lot of leadership is built around being a strongman and around being a master strategist.
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Old 05-06-2022, 01:03 PM   #6063
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Old 05-06-2022, 03:09 PM   #6065
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Remember when they paraded the survivors of Moskva? Yeah about that…

https://twitter.com/user/status/1522681264658165760
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Old 05-07-2022, 07:47 AM   #6066
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Ukraine releases another video of the Bayraktar destroying a Russian ship. This time a Serna-class landing craft at Snake Island. The ship was reportedly supplying TOR anti-aircraft missiles to the island.

Video also shows video of a building on the island getting hit.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1522897994701549573

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Old 05-07-2022, 09:47 AM   #6067
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Lost ships are likely the worst losses for Russia. They're effectively impossibly to replace, as Turkey is not allowing Russian warships to be moved to the Black Sea.
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Old 05-07-2022, 10:24 AM   #6068
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Lost ships are likely the worst losses for Russia. They're effectively impossibly to replace, as Turkey is not allowing Russian warships to be moved to the Black Sea.
That and it takes years to build a replacement.
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Old 05-07-2022, 10:27 AM   #6069
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That and it takes years to build a replacement.

And about a gajillion dollars per ship.
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Old 05-07-2022, 12:49 PM   #6070
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All women, children and older adults have been evacuated from a steel mill long besieged by Russian forces in the southern Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, Ukraine's deputy prime minister said on Saturday.


"The president's order has been carried out: All women, children and the elderly have been evacuated from Azovstal," Iryna Veheshchuk said. "This part of the Mariupol humanitarian operation has been completed."
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Some of the plant's previous evacuees spoke to the AP about the horrors of being surrounded by death in the mouldy underground bunker with little food and water, poor medical care and diminishing hope. Some said they felt guilty for leaving others behind.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukrain...445379?cmp=rss


Some good news that that nightmare is over for them. Can't imagine the trauma they went through.
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Old 05-07-2022, 02:15 PM   #6071
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Old 05-07-2022, 02:31 PM   #6072
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Russian state media starting to question mass mobilization against NATO weapons.

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Old 05-07-2022, 02:56 PM   #6073
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Russia steals an island and are dumb enough not protect it with SAM's
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Old 05-07-2022, 03:09 PM   #6074
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Russia steals an island and are dumb enough not protect it with SAM's
The SAM was Bayraktared a couple days ago. The replacement was on the landing ship that was posted by sureloss.
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Old 05-07-2022, 03:12 PM   #6075
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MOD and map updates. Russians continuing their futile attacks over the last few days in Izyum, Kherson, Mariupol, and Severodonetsk with only minor confirmed gains west of Izyum.

Ukrainians are continuing their broad counter offensive to push Russians out of artillery range to the north and east of Kharkiv and have made moderate gains Staryi Saltiv area.

Fighting in other areas has been limited. All women, children and elderly have now been evacuated from the Azovstal plant area as per AP.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1522815718999289856
https://twitter.com/user/status/1523019179896741888

Larger detailed map from Wikipedia


https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...4a9e6ea8f386d8

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Russia steals an island and are dumb enough not protect it with SAM's
my guess is they were relying on having a large naval asset near by to provide anti air cover, a frigate or something, you know like the Admiral Makerov, that would provide excellent air defense if it was close by and not on fire
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Old 05-07-2022, 04:02 PM   #6077
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That and it takes years to build a replacement.
Well obviously that too, but short term Russia has more than enough ships for this conflict. They just can't move them to where the war is being fought.
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Old 05-07-2022, 04:39 PM   #6078
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Meanwhile the anti-vaxxers in Calgary have switched allegiances. Spotted in Fort Calgary, and apparently there is another group DT as well.
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Meanwhile the anti-vaxxers in Calgary have switched allegiances. Spotted in Fort Calgary, and apparently there is another group DT as well.
Switched allegiance? The freedumb people have been pro-Putin since the beginning of the war.
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Old 05-07-2022, 05:10 PM   #6080
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Well obviously that too, but short term Russia has more than enough ships for this conflict. They just can't move them to where the war is being fought.
Probably the only time I'm happy Turkey is a NATO member.
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