05-01-2022, 04:30 PM
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#3781
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2019
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Originally Posted by dino7c
He got 49 points...being constantly injured and suspended isn't a plus. 49 points for 4M or whatever on the highest scoring team in the league.
Good season but nothing to lose sleep over...we have an over 100 point forward that 2 of our biggest rivals gifted us in the draft.
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Could you imagine Bennett at center between Mangipagine and Toffoli.
Instead of Baclund's 12 goals and over 5.3 million salary.
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05-01-2022, 04:35 PM
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#3782
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra
Could you imagine Bennett at center between Mangipagine and Toffoli.
Instead of Baclund's 12 goals and over 5.3 million salary.
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Bennett can’t do what Backlund does
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05-01-2022, 04:45 PM
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#3783
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Bennett can’t do what Backlund does
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The 2C spot is the only potential weakness on this team. Bennett, a healthy Monahan, or another decent player there pushing Backlund to 3C would have been ideal. Jarnkrok was a decent add, but a legit 2C would really have pushed us over the top.
We can’t really dwell on Bennett though as he would not have been here through the expansion draft and the capital we got for him was used to bring in Toffoli. Time to move on.
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05-01-2022, 04:48 PM
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#3784
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Bennett is a more productive player on the Panthers. The Flames are a better team without Bennett. It worked out for everyone.
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05-01-2022, 04:59 PM
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#3785
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Bennett is a more productive player on the Panthers. The Flames are a better team without Bennett. It worked out for everyone.
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Lets see if either team makes it out of the 1st round.
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05-01-2022, 05:21 PM
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#3786
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Lets see if either team makes it out of the 1st round.
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Then we’ll know definitively.
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05-01-2022, 05:51 PM
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#3787
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Wish They Could Win
The 2C spot is the only potential weakness on this team. Bennett, a healthy Monahan, or another decent player there pushing Backlund to 3C would have been ideal. Jarnkrok was a decent add, but a legit 2C would really have pushed us over the top.
We can’t really dwell on Bennett though as he would not have been here through the expansion draft and the capital we got for him was used to bring in Toffoli. Time to move on.
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Only to people who only judge players by scoring stats...if you look at Backlund metrics he is one of the best shutdown centers in the league
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05-01-2022, 06:15 PM
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#3788
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Only to people who only judge players by scoring stats...if you look at Backlund metrics he is one of the best shutdown centers in the league
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I mean this whole thread is basically about judging Bennett solely on his production lol. That he's just a 55 point guy on a high scoring team etc. when he brings much more than points especially in the playoffs. So not sure why Backlund should be judged any differently.
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05-01-2022, 06:20 PM
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#3789
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Saqe
I mean this whole thread is basically about judging Bennett solely on his production lol. That he's just a 55 point guy on a high scoring team etc. when he brings much more than points especially in the playoffs. So not sure why Backlund should be judged any differently.
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49 point guy
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05-01-2022, 07:40 PM
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#3790
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Only to people who only judge players by scoring stats...if you look at Backlund metrics he is one of the best shutdown centers in the league
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I never said that I don’t value Backlund. He is definitely an important cog on the team. That shutdown role typically happens from the 3rd line and your 2C should be more of a scoring threat. My point is that we are missing another scoring centre, but not at the expense of Backlund.
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05-01-2022, 08:08 PM
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#3791
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dino7c
49 point guy
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Ok well I meant he was scoring at a 57 point pace so he was a 0.69 PPG player for them, which is pretty good. But that wasn't really the point was it.
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05-01-2022, 08:44 PM
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#3792
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Originally Posted by Saqe
Ok well I meant he was scoring at a 57 point pace so he was a 0.69 PPG player for them, which is pretty good. But that wasn't really the point was it.
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Sometimes people don’t want to get the point
That’s a nice little scoring pace
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05-01-2022, 08:49 PM
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#3793
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Franchise Player
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Sometimes people use pace because it looks better
He scored 49 points...that is how many he got
Staying healthy and not getting suspended is part of of it
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05-01-2022, 08:50 PM
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#3794
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
I mean this whole thread is basically about judging Bennett solely on his production lol. That he's just a 55 point guy on a high scoring team etc. when he brings much more than points especially in the playoffs. So not sure why Backlund should be judged any differently.
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Bennett also plays with a winger who led the league in assists. He wasn't getting anywhere close to that kind of linemate in Calgary. The only option to get Bennett going was to pair him with Gaudreau, which would have broken up the best line in hockey.
Bennett definitely brings toughness, but lacks intelligence. Not a chance he could do what Backlund does, and without Huberdeau and in the more shutdown focused role Sutter would have had him in, Bennett likely gets fewer points than Backlund too. Bennett was not the answer for the #2 centre in Calgary.
If the Flames are upgrading that position, they need a legit 60+ point guy who is both defensively responsible and capable of creating their own offence.
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05-01-2022, 09:03 PM
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#3796
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Franchise Player
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Am I the only one that wants to see this thread locked?
Seems to me there is little new information coming in and sure this horse has been beaten enough?
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05-01-2022, 09:05 PM
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#3797
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Franchise Player
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I think the point is he wouldn't have 49 points in Backlunds role, ...look at the Panthers scoring stats, anyone with a pulse gets 40 points.
Sam Bennett wouldn't be some amazing 2nd line center in Calgary. He would probably have 39 points like Backlund does.
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05-01-2022, 09:08 PM
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#3798
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Northendzone
Am I the only one that wants to see this thread locked?
Seems to me there is little new information coming in and sure this horse has been beaten enough?
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Yeah kinda, but that would make me a hypocrite because I always bump it. It is kinda silly though.
Do you think the Rangers, Yotes, Hawks, and Sens have threads on their sites about Duclaire's 58 points?
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05-01-2022, 09:20 PM
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#3799
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Franchise Player
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Was Duclaire the highest pick in any those team's history?
Personally I wouldn't take Bennett over Backlund for this team at this moment in time. Although I can understand the argument for it.
I would take him over Monahan if I can have that choice.
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05-01-2022, 09:21 PM
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#3800
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Franchise Player
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Those teams all had Duclair and let him go...Flames at least got 2 picks
And Duclair is doing better than Sam
You win some you lose some, Flames entire roster are guys other teams passed on or traded...including the best line in the NHL.
It's about time we got over it...did Canes fans bump a thread everytime Lindy got a point?
I swear some posters like SB more than the Flames
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