04-30-2022, 10:30 AM
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#541
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
^the_only_turek_fan strikes me as a steadfast Paul Hallelujah voter.
Firing her Chief of Staff isn't even what mattered, it's openly lying about the details of his termination. If the details aren't required to be disclosed, then don't disclose them. But if you are going to disclose them, you best not be lying about it.
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Also hiring him in the first place. It’s not like he is an unknown person.
The firing and severance is the only reasonable part of the situation.
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04-30-2022, 11:07 AM
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#542
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Originally Posted by Locke
In fairness though...he is an immensely hate-able person.
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He’s not though. He’s an awful politician but he’s a decent person. He’s currently running the Pacific Crest Trail for charity. I think he should be commended for that.
https://bbbscalgary.ca/news-events/jeromys-big-run/
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04-30-2022, 12:16 PM
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#543
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
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That was the nicest thing I could think of to say about her other than the obligatory "at least she isn't Farkas."
What do you think her biggest accomplishment is so far?
I forgot about declaring a climate emergency, I guess some voters might be in favour of that.
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04-30-2022, 12:29 PM
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#544
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by DownInFlames
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I have been following that a bit and he seems more likeable outside of the realm of politics.
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04-30-2022, 12:55 PM
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#545
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Well the problem with this last election is that there was really no other viable choice than Gondek. Do you really think Farkas would have been any better?
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Jeff Davison.
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04-30-2022, 01:58 PM
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#546
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Well the problem with this last election is that there was really no other viable choice than Gondek. Do you really think Farkas would have been any better?
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Jan Damery the only one I can think would have been better, but as a political rookie, it's a shame she didn't run for council instead.
We know Farkas' deal and Davison was an empty suit
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04-30-2022, 02:12 PM
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#547
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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I'm not wasting my vote on a candidate who doesn't have a chance, unless I think that person would be a great mayor. None of the "low vote count" people fit that category for my this time. So I look at those who have a chance and who I think would be best of those options. And I absolutely prefer Gondek to Farkas or Davison (if you want to count him as having a chance).
I've heard of a few of Farkas's personal plans, like that run, and was surprised because I absolutely HATE his politics. He does seem like a good guy... just not someone I would ever vote for.
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04-30-2022, 05:51 PM
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#548
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Jeff Davison.
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Clown vote.
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04-30-2022, 06:08 PM
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#549
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Franchise Player
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Retired city councillor here. The mayor has been oriented (by law) as have the rest of council and should know how taxes work.
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05-03-2022, 10:45 AM
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#551
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First Line Centre
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Rather, it's administration for whom "math is hard", as they're the ones who told council the uncommitted surplus was $147M. Then they revised it to $143M, and then they said, "Oh, but we forgot to count $38M of stuff the last council committed to at the end of 2021, so it's actually only $105M."
Not sure how you fault council for it.
Last edited by timun; 05-03-2022 at 12:50 PM.
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05-03-2022, 10:47 AM
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#552
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
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Seems like a lot of silly pearl-clutching around this story. I'd be very interested to know exactly how administration presented this to council (any caveats about finality?) and how the $147M figure made it to the media...may have been from simply watching the meeting, where it's possible the media ignored any context/caveats.
CFO may have screwed up on omitting the $38M, but any of the 15 councillors could also have asked about it if they were on top of things.
Ultimately it's a very good story that's now just a good story.
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05-03-2022, 10:55 AM
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#553
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by timun
Rather, it's administration for whom "math is hard", as they're the ones who told council the uncommitted surplus was $147M. Then they revised it to $143M, and then they said, "Oh, but we forgot to count $38M of stuff the last council committed to at the end of 2021, so it's actually only $105M."
Not sure how you fault council for it.
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Easy. You decide ahead of time that council will do a bad job, then you mould every piece of news to fit into that.
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05-03-2022, 11:02 AM
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#554
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Franchise Player
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I can remember a time when a surplus was a good thing.
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05-03-2022, 11:12 AM
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#555
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by timun
Rather, it's administration for whom "math is hard", as they're the ones who told council the uncommitted surplus was $147M. Then they revised it to $143M, and then they said, "Oh, but we forgot to count $38M of stuff the last council committed to at the end of 2021, so it's actually only $105M."
Not sure how you fault council for it.
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Pretty sure it was this council - they were elected Oct '21 and spent this Nov '21.
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05-03-2022, 11:32 AM
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#556
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Pretty sure it was this council - they were elected Oct '21 and spent this Nov '21.
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Ah, yeah, re-read that and you're right. My bad.
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05-03-2022, 12:20 PM
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#557
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
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I'm looking forward to this amount gradually declining day by day.
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05-03-2022, 12:24 PM
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#558
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
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That was all I could think of. What would you say she has accomplished so far?
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05-03-2022, 01:02 PM
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#559
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
That was all I could think of. What would you say she has accomplished so far?
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What would I say who has accomplished so far? My councillor has accomplished nothing except this stupid bird thing, which only backs up my initial suspicions of her that she would be yet another pet project councillor who prioritizes things that are visible without actually being impactful. In essence, your attributing that to Jyoti makes Penner seem better than she is.  It was not a defense of Gondek -- I mean technically I guess it ends up that way, but not my intention. If pressed, I can't really think what Gondek has accomplished (positive) off the top of my head. She tried to prevent the CPS funding boost which would have been a plus in my books, but failed to rally council on that point and the budget increase passed anyway.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Typical dumb take.
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Last edited by TorqueDog; 05-03-2022 at 01:07 PM.
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05-03-2022, 01:20 PM
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#560
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
What would I say who has accomplished so far? My councillor has accomplished nothing except this stupid bird thing, which only backs up my initial suspicions of her that she would be yet another pet project councillor who prioritizes things that are visible without actually being impactful. In essence, your attributing that to Jyoti makes Penner seem better than she is.  It was not a defense of Gondek -- I mean technically I guess it ends up that way, but not my intention. If pressed, I can't really think what Gondek has accomplished (positive) off the top of my head. She tried to prevent the CPS funding boost which would have been a plus in my books, but failed to rally council on that point and the budget increase passed anyway.
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Gotcha, I was reading that as also a defense of Gondek.
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