I always find it fascinating how we start liking some awfully bad characters in movies and TV shows knowing full well that they are really, really bad people, which should not be liked. Yet, we do. Some relevant recent examples are Walter White, Mike, Nacho, Jimmy/Saul, Kim... Or, unrelated, John Dutton and Rip in Yellowstone. There are countless other examples in movies, of course. And then, we are made to dislike good characters, like Howard Hamlin etc. Is it in human nature or is it only due to good script/directorship/acting, I wonder?
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Sounds like I need to give this show a second shot.
How would you rank it for Binge-ablility?
I think binging would work well. I waited until season 5 came out on netflix and watched it all in a couple nights. The show does not have a particularly episodic feel to it. Every episode is always moving the show forward through its multiple storylines. I could see it being a pretty rewarding watch in binge fashion.
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I'm not understanding the point of Mike and the sniper rifle, was he protecting Gus et al? Was the plan to have Nacho run at some point and Mike takes out the twins and maybe Bolsa?
I'm not understanding the point of Mike and the sniper rifle, was he protecting Gus et al? Was the plan to have Nacho run at some point and Mike takes out the twins and maybe Bolsa?
They definitely had a plan hashed out over bourbon(?). They had the nod when Mike got out of the van, and you could see Nacho didn't know what he was going to do. He almost had buddy with the gun, I suspect if he had shot him, Mike would have taken out the rest of them. When Nacho shot himself, you could see Mike make a face like...####, that wasn't the plan. I think Nacho was also vacillating about outing Gus as a kinda "here's everything you don't know" before the plan would have gone down. He didn't know what he was going to do until he did it. I thought they did a great job showing how torn he was through that scene.
I think Nacho did what both him and Mike intended. When Mike said "Do it", the plan was for Nacho to shoot himself. The nod they gave each other when Mike left the truck confirmed that for me.
They respect each other and Mike wanted to give Nacho the chance to go out on his own terms and not the way Gus had planned. Nacho did what Mike wished he would have done for his son. I'm guessing that if Nacho didn't do it, Mike would've shot him instead.
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Mike said "Do it" when Nacho had the gun to the other guy's head, though. He also seems kinda fed up with Gus, so it would also have made sense that Mike had an alternate plan.
I thought Mike was impatiently saying “Do it” to Victor, who is was supposed to take down Nacho.
That could make sense. I bet that's what it is. Nacho was going to break out of the zip tie and hold the piece of glass to Bolsas neck. Gives Victor or Mike an excuse to shoot Nacho and prevent him from revealing anything while being tortured by Salamanca, which was probably going to happen regardless. Nacho decided to go for the gun on Bolsa instead so he could go out on his terms, plus keeps Gus off his dad. I think Mike was supposed to shoot Nacho when he took Bolsa hostage, he only loaded 1 bullet.
It's unfair how good this show and whole universe or characters are. A series, a spinoff, and a movie aren't supposed to continue to be this high quality. Tony Dalton as Lalo? Just incredible
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I always find it fascinating how we start liking some awfully bad characters in movies and TV shows knowing full well that they are really, really bad people, which should not be liked. Yet, we do. Some relevant recent examples are Walter White, Mike, Nacho, Jimmy/Saul, Kim... Or, unrelated, John Dutton and Rip in Yellowstone. There are countless other examples in movies, of course. And then, we are made to dislike good characters, like Howard Hamlin etc. Is it in human nature or is it only due to good script/directorship/acting, I wonder?
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