Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[Vinny01]

Francis put this in his most recent article. I assume he is wrong

“A restricted free agent this summer, it’s unlikely Tkachuk will do anything other than sign a qualifying offer for one more year at $9 million”

[The Yen Man]

The daddy Tkatchuk response actually reads quite well IMO, in that both sides have come to a gentleman's agreement to focus on the playoffs, and then hash out a deal afterwards in the summer. Sounds like there's mutual respect for each other, and that's always a good sign when negotiating a new contract.

I actually think Chucky playing so well this year helps with the Flames contract negotiations. Previously, you were worried he'd be overpaid at $9M per year, so he'd just take the $9M and bank on himself to bounce back next year. Now, you can entice him to signing a longer term contract by giving him higher than $9M.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

The daddy Tkatchuk response actually reads quite well IMO, in that both sides have come to a gentleman's agreement to focus on the playoffs, and then hash out a deal afterwards in the summer. Sounds like there's mutual respect for each other, and that's always a good sign when negotiating a new contract.

I actually think Chucky playing so well this year helps with the Flames contract negotiations. Previously, you were worried he'd be overpaid at $9M per year, so he'd just take the $9M and bank on himself to bounce back next year. Now, you can entice him to signing a longer term contract by giving him higher than $9M.

Though if they are supertight to the cap they may have to give him the 9 for a year on the understanding he gets a good raise the following year, with additional space coming up.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Though if they are supertight to the cap they may have to give him the 9 for a year on the understanding he gets a good raise the following year, with additional space coming up.

The risk there is that he has another super year, and as a pending UFA his leverage does through the roof.

If you can get him signed to 8 years now, you jump on that. When a player gets offered 8 years before he has to, there is a lot of incentive to take it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The risk there is that he has another super year, and as a pending UFA his leverage does through the roof.

If you can get him signed to 8 years now, you jump on that. When a player gets offered 8 years before he has to, there is a lot of incentive to take it.

Well, yes, if you can sign him for more now you do it. My premise was $9M was as much as they can do.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Francis put this in his most recent article. I assume he is wrong

“A restricted free agent this summer, it’s unlikely Tkachuk will do anything other than sign a qualifying offer for one more year at $9 million”

He has realized he has failed at running Gaudreau out of town and is now turning to Tkachuk. Exactly what I said would happen.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1516487577624219649

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1516487577624219649

Well, that settles it. We now have proof that Tkachuk will remember the Flames fondly after he signs with St. Louis for $1 a year just to spite us.

[tvp2003]

Just doing a bit of math:

Last year, Tkachuk had 43 points in 56 games, which would be equivalent to 63 points over 82 games. And that was only after he went on a heater at the end of the season (i.e. on a line with Gaudreau and Lindholm) were he picked up 12 points in his last 8 games.

Before that -- it would have been 31 points in 48 games, which would be equivalent to 53 points over 82 games.

I could be wrong but I don't think Tkachuk's value will be as high as it is right now. He'd obviously have more negotiating leverage next year if he was a UFA, but it's not going to be easy to duplicate his production this year (and guaranteed it won't happen if Johnny signs elsewhere <<shudder>>).

[TheIronMaiden]

It is unlikely either player signs for under 10M. It is typically 1M every ten points no?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Francis put this in his most recent article. I assume he is wrong

“A restricted free agent this summer, it’s unlikely Tkachuk will do anything other than sign a qualifying offer for one more year at $9 million”

Francis attempting to be a prophet is always laughable.

Especially right after he goofed his Johnny projection and was called out on it.

He also doesn't understand people well from a personal perspective given the awful rhetorical and irksome prodding questions he comes up with. I would expect him to be the last person to have a read on Tkachuk's current mindset and intention.

Tl;dr 6/7 x 10 confirmed.

[Iggy Snipe]

Tkachuk would be stupid to take the option on a one year /9 million deal, when he could easily sign for 8 years / 9-10 million per after a 100 point season. If he takes the one year deal, his stock will almost certainly decline, as repeating 100 point seasons is not an easy feat.

Johnny will sign 8x10.25 with Calgary. Have faith.

[dissentowner]

I think now Johnny comes in at 8 years/80M.
I think Matthew will come in at 6 years/$60M.

[FlamesAddiction]

I wish I could find the interview of Tkachuk earlier this season where he expressed how happy he is in Calgary and with the Flames. I know he's a savvy guy in front of the camera, but he seemed really sincere and went further than just quick easy answers. It gave me a lot of hope that he sees long term potential with the franchise.

If he signs an extension (and I think he will), I don't think he goes any less than 8 years. There is just too much financial risk to not capitalize on this season as much as possible. Unless he thinks the NHL will grow substantially in 5 years, he is already a top player and there is not much more to prove.

[tvp2003]

^^ I see lots of people thinking Tkachuk (who is 24) will want a 5-6 year extension versus 8 years. Presumably this is so he can potentially maximize the value of his next contract (i.e. when he'd still be 29 or 30)? And likely with a higher salary cap?

In comparison, Johnny is already 28 so he'd want the full 8 years since this will be his last BIG contract.

[Roof-Daddy]

Since everybody involved seems content to wait until the playoffs are over to start contract negotiations, I'm thinking what happens during those will have a lot to do with how their future contracts look.

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1516797053522784260

We will not be outbid!

[Ashasx]

Ryan means that the Flames are able to do it because they can offer 8 years whereas the most anyone else can do is 7.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Ryan means that the Flames are able to do it because they can offer 8 years whereas the most anyone else can do is 7.

probably true. I think the Flames best offer is going to be very difficult for another team to beat. And if Gaudreau leaves, it won't be because of money. Having said that, if he did want to be playing elsewhere, I suspect he would have been traded long ago.

[GioforPM]

Well Pinder is undeniably right, but the other moving parts the Flames are dealing with complicate things. The Flames can offer absolute max money and 8 years. No team could match that. But the Flames would probably have to wave bye to Tkachuk to do so.