will the flames sign gaudreau?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Unlikely. I think Gaudreau knows that if he wants to win a Stanley Cup, he's going to need to move down to the USA where an American team has won the Cup for almost thirty years in a row.

25 American teams 7 Canadian

And what cup contender has 10M plus cap space

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Unlikely. I think Gaudreau knows that if he wants to win a Stanley Cup, he's going to need to move down to the USA where an American team has won the Cup for almost thirty years in a row.

That could be said for every Canadian player. Johnny said at the start he wants to be here if the Flames want him, he went as far as to say "he has never once said he doesn't want to play for the Flames." He jas been playing hard seems happy and not concerned so unless there is some agreement in place for him to walk he sure hasn't shown it. Didn't his dad say he loved playing for Sutter, MT says they are all really close, what more do we need?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dino7c

25 American teams 7 Canadian

And what cup contender has 10M plus cap space

Vegas and Lightnings

They know how to cheat

[MegaErtz]

Johnny Gaudreau is not re-signing with the Flames. If he was going to, he would have done so already. All hockey players are one bad hit away from having their careers ended. Gaudreau is likely to get a contract worth somewhere about eighty million dollars this summer. Do you really think he'd be playing all season long at the risk of losing out on all that money if he was just going to re-sign with the Flames anyway? Of course not. He would have taken an earlier offer and avoided the risk.

Of course players aren't going to tell the fans that they're leaving until the day comes. They stand to gain nothing from the abuse. Would you tell a girl you're going to break up with her in three months, or just wait until you're ready to leave and do it then? Flames fans are kidding themselves if they think he wants to stay here.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Johnny Gaudreau is not re-signing with the Flames. If he was going to, he would have done so already. All hockey players are one bad hit away from having their careers ended. Gaudreau is likely to get a contract worth somewhere about eighty million dollars this summer. Do you really think he'd be playing all season long at the risk of losing out on all that money if he was just going to re-sign with the Flames anyway? Of course not. He would have taken an earlier offer and avoided the risk.

Of course players aren't going to tell the fans that they're leaving until the day comes. They stand to gain nothing from the abuse. Would you tell a girl you're going to break up with her in three months, or just wait until you're ready to leave and do it then? Flames fans are kidding themselves if they think he wants to stay here.

The biggest knock on JG is his ability to elevate / keep the pace in playoffs

A good playoffs could be worth another 10 million on a long term deal.

Players do bet on themselves

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Vegas and Lightnings

They know how to cheat

$1000 says he doesn't sign with either of those teams

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Unlikely. I think Gaudreau knows that if he wants to win a Stanley Cup, he's going to need to move down to the USA where an American team has won the Cup for almost thirty years in a row.

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Johnny Gaudreau is not re-signing with the Flames. If he was going to, he would have done so already. All hockey players are one bad hit away from having their careers ended. Gaudreau is likely to get a contract worth somewhere about eighty million dollars this summer. Do you really think he'd be playing all season long at the risk of losing out on all that money if he was just going to re-sign with the Flames anyway? Of course not. He would have taken an earlier offer and avoided the risk.

Are you just increasing the ridiculousness of each take? Is the next one about aliens?

Gotta be 80% of players who re-sign do so at the end of the final year of their contract.

[1_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by puckbrain

while i was watching vgk feed between the flames/goldenknights the other night, during intermission they interviewed gary lawless which he said the flames can't afford to sign gaudreau..

he also said that canadian teams have trouble in keeping superstars due to the financial constraints playing in a canadian market...

i'm worried the flames may let gaudreau walk....

Lawless sucks, I remember him talking to Dregar earlier in the season and he said it was, the Knights and Oilers at top of the division and no one else was relevant. How did that work out Gary?

[McG]

I’m wondering why we haven’t started a thread on this yet. I’m thinking that it might also include MT and it could possibly be a signing watch thread.

Weird. CP usually does that.

[Mass19]

Devils will sign him.
11 mil a year

[SportsJunky]

Looking at puckbrain's posting history - it screams troll.

[McG]

An echo chamber thread with trolls yelling at each other.

[MegaErtz]

What do you guys think the Flames best offer is right now? Eight years, $100 million US? He could win the Conn Smythe and bring a Cup to Calgary and I don't think he'd be looking at more than $13m per year. We need to be realistic about how badly this guy wants to stay in Calgary. Why would any athlete risk upwards of one hundred million bucks on the chance he could play really well and up his value by an additional 5%, while being at constant risk of having his career ended at any moment?

I get that fans want to cheer for their team, and it isn't nice to hear people speculate that a top players wants to leave, but we need to be realistic. He should have been given a fair offer earlier in the season and dealt at the deadline if he didn't agree to sign. The Flames have been really bad with managing their assests for decades and that's a big reason that we haven't won for over three decades. Sure, we might win the Cup and everyone will be bumping this thread and saying how great it was that we stuck with Gaudreau, but the odds of that are low. I'd say there's an 80% chance that we lose in the first couple of rounds of the playoffs and Gaudreau walks away for nothing.

[Reggie Dunlop]

He will sign with Edmonton for league minimum.

[Jason14h]

I would guess the current Flames best offer is 80-85 for 8 year

With a great playoffs he could look at 11.5 a year so 92 million ?

So it’s not a small bet - prob 10 million difference

On a UFA deal for 7 years I don’t see anyone going over 11.5 right now. So 80 million.

A big playoffs and 12.5 is possible on open market .

[Mathgod]

We clearly needed another thread for this.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by puckbrain

while i was watching vgk feed between the flames/goldenknights the other night, during intermission they interviewed gary lawless which he said the flames can't afford to sign gaudreau..

he also said that canadian teams have trouble in keeping superstars due to the financial constraints playing in a canadian market...

i'm worried the flames may let gaudreau walk....

The only financial constraints would be the tax situations however I think in the next CBA salary caps should be adjusted based on the teams provincial or state tax rates. A salary cap means nothing when take home pay is not taken into account.

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I would guess the current Flames best offer is 80-85 for 8 year

With a great playoffs he could look at 11.5 a year so 92 million ?

So it’s not a small bet - prob 10 million difference

On a UFA deal for 7 years I don’t see anyone going over 11.5 right now. So 80 million.

A big playoffs and 12.5 is possible on open market .

What can you buy with $92 million that you can't buy with $80 million? Give your head a shake. Nobody is going to risk getting a career ending injury for an entire season to try to make an extra few bucks. If he gets a terrible concussion or other bad injury that means he can't continue playing, are the Flames going to give him some money for free? No, of course not. This is a business. Other teams can only offer him a seven year deal, so even if he wins the Conn Smythe and brings the Cup to Calgary, he's not going to greatly increase his market value.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

After that family interview on Thursday I say yes.

He is also going to be next captain.

What was said in the family interview?

[memphusk]

Isn't the real question can they afford not too?