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Old 04-06-2022, 12:27 AM   #4681
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Is that even a possibility, though? Would be awesome, if it happens.
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Calgary is in Canada.

As good of a place as any to host a 2nd tier international match.
Stadium wise, that's a big nope. Edmonton, Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, hell even Winnipeg and Saskatchewan and Hamilton are all ahead of Calgary for hosting soccer matches.
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Old 04-06-2022, 10:23 AM   #4682
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As a city of this size and wealth, Calgary really needs to be in these conversations. We're being outclassed by Vancouver, Edmonton, Regina, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Toronto and Montreal, and that doesn't look to be changing anytime soon. The stadium situation here is ####ing embarrassing.
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As a city of this size and wealth, Calgary really needs to be in these conversations. We're being outclassed by Vancouver, Edmonton, Regina, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Toronto and Montreal, and that doesn't look to be changing anytime soon. The stadium situation here is ####ing embarrassing.
Everyone agrees, yet here we are.

I just don't understand why Calgary can't do what Torino did with their new football stadium. 41,000 seater with a roof for 155MM euros.

Calgary could make a cozy 30,000 seater carbon copy and could certainly be a shared venue between Stamps and Cavalry.

PS: Edmonton should not be included in the conversation. They are a great sports town, but Commonwealth is just as bad as McMahon. It just has 15,000 extra seats (which never get filled).
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PS: Edmonton should not be included in the conversation. They are a great sports town, but Commonwealth is just as bad as McMahon. It just has 15,000 extra seats (which never get filled).
Commonwealth is one of the largest sports stadiums in Canada and it's about to get a massive reno to the tune of $150M. It has already hosted many FIFA games prior to this, hence why it is absolutely necessary to include it in the convo. It is also not just a stadium, but a sports district, with the Commonwealth Recreation Centre attached to it which is an absolutely gorgeous training facility.

As much as Commonwealth is relatively outdated right now, it's still light years better than McMahon.
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The only reason they hosted FIFA matches is because of it's capacity. An argument could be made that it's worse than McMahon.

Row 1 is about 18 miles from the touchline.

I agree with your premise though. Calgary's stadium (and arena) infrastructure is embarrassing. 4th largest city in a G7 country.
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Guess who's back....

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Old 04-06-2022, 12:03 PM   #4687
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The only reason they hosted FIFA matches is because of it's capacity. An argument could be made that it's worse than McMahon.

Row 1 is about 18 miles from the touchline.

I agree with your premise though. Calgary's stadium (and arena) infrastructure is embarrassing. 4th largest city in a G7 country.
It's not just the stadium, but the travel in these games can be pretty brutal. When you're playing 3 games in 6 days while flying back and forth from Central America, the travel from Toronto is significantly easier. Montreal may be the only other fit in that regard, but then you're losing out on 10k fans worth of revenue.

Edmonton got lucky as BMO Field wasn't available, and Canada had two home matches in the same window, so the CSA went for more capacity and cold conditions. Hamilton got lucky as BMO Field was not playable in January.

If we're talking friendlies, I think you can make an argument to spread it out throughout the country, but then Calgary falls behind probably 8-10 cities due to the stadium situation.
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Excellent. Bayern has probably missed him more than Canada which is wild to think about
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I don't follow soccer, but has FIFA outlawed artificial pitches?
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They haven't, but they want grass for the Men's World Cup Finals.
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They haven't, but they want grass for the Men's World Cup Finals.
What i the reason given?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrassMaster

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GrassMaster is a hybrid grass sports playing field surface composed of natural grass combined with artificial fibres. The method was developed and patented by Desso Sports from the Netherlands in 1993. This hybrid grass system is now marketed and further developed by Tarkett Sports after a takeover of Desso Sports and has been rebranded since as GrassMaster.

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What i the reason given?
Just better quality I think. They played the 2015 Women's World Cup on turf in Canada and it was a disaster. Since then, both Women's World Cup 2019 in France and 2023 in Australia/New Zealand require grass also. And also because it's a tournament, they'd want uniformity. They wouldn't want some grass fields and some turf fields.
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Just better quality I think. They played the 2015 Women's World Cup on turf in Canada and it was a disaster. Since then, both Women's World Cup 2019 in France and 2023 in Australia/New Zealand require grass also. And also because it's a tournament, they'd want uniformity. They wouldn't want some grass fields and some turf fields.
They would get a consistent surface through the use of artificial surfaces (I know you mean consistency between games, ie: having to play on grass then artificial surfaces).

I wonder if some of it has to do with speed of play and injuries.

Sorry one other things when you say it was a the 2015 Woman's World Cup was a disaster because of the artificial turf, what specifically was a disaster.
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They would get a consistent surface through the use of artificial surfaces (I know you mean consistency between games, ie: having to play on grass then artificial surfaces).

I wonder if some of it has to do with speed of play and injuries.

Sorry one other things when you say it was a the 2015 Woman's World Cup was a disaster because of the artificial turf, what specifically was a disaster.
You said it, injuries. Turfburns! The turf was hard and hot, it would keep in the sun's heat and get to over 50C or 60C. The field at commonwealth especially just baked. Some players said it was like walking on hot coals.



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You said it, injuries. Turfburns! The turf was hard and hot, it would keep in the sun's heat and get to over 50C or 60C. The field at commonwealth especially just baked. Some players said it was like walking on hot coals.



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Locally, a good example would be SAIT's field. On hot days, feels like your feet are just swimming in sweat in your boots.

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Old 04-14-2022, 10:54 PM   #4698
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Interesting how they'd split games for canada

With new format, teams are only guaranteed 2 games, since it will now be groups of 3

So 1 of the 3 would likely not get a canadian game, unless they got both KO game for canadas group teams and canada advances
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Old 04-18-2022, 11:47 PM   #4699
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Interesting how they'd split games for canada

With new format, teams are only guaranteed 2 games, since it will now be groups of 3

So 1 of the 3 would likely not get a canadian game, unless they got both KO game for canadas group teams and canada advances
Well, Alberta's funding for the renos to Commenwealth have stipulations, that I don't think will really get past the CSA (especially now with Vancouver Ponting up some money for the CSA) nevermind Fifa.

If BC is back in, maybe only two venues with more games (ie knockout) games.

The grass requirement should be interesting for all those US stadiums that have built with or converted to field turf since 1994.
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In 94 they had to bring grass for Giants Stadium and the Silverdome. More stadiums will need to do it this time around but there’s also a lot more money to be made for some of them.

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