[GT] St. Louis vs. Flames 04/02/22

[TheSquatch]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The deflection?

Yes, the draw up a play that requires a breakdown in defensive coverage and a lucky tip - never fails!

[timbit]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

OK. Based on results the Flames are losing and there's been three goals on three perfect shots....out of ten. Better?

It's a results game...close ain't cutting it. Slop isn't either. And yes, goalies DO actually stop deflected shots. Sure it's partly luck, but also partly positioning. And I think Marky keeps losing his net a bit. Not sure that's such a simplistic thing. Don't like the floater goal on the first shot. You see that teams are now trying that. Methinks the video guys have picked up on something. Dunno what it is...but they wouldn't try it if they didn't know something.

The first “ floater goal” that was deflected and dramatically changed direction, three feet in front of Markstrom?

That one?

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

well start by considering the quality of chance. Expecting him to stop a deflected shot is silly. The second goal was perfectly placed with a partial screen in one of the tough locations for a goalie to stop. Yes he was deep in his net, but that's in part because of blown coverage that led to the chance.
So evaluate it in context and not something silly like "3 goals on 10 shots".

Among goalies who have played 30+ games Markstrom is:

- 25th in high danger save percentage above expected;
- 15th in goals saved above expected per 60;
- 9th in low danger save percentage above expected:
- 13th in medium danger save percentage above expected;
- 3rd in goals against average;
- 5th in save percentage;
- 1st in shutouts

Flames are:
- 1st in expected goals percentage
- 2nd in Corsi
- 3rd in expected goal differential
- 1st in expected goals against (lowest)
- 1st in high danger shots allowed (fewest)

In the statistics which are meant to isolate the goalie performance from the team performance Markstrom is average. In the metrics which are are more team dependant Markstrom looks elite.

In terms of defensive play the Flames are elite.

There is certainly an argument to be made that Markstrom's elite numbers are the result of elite defensive team play.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Zadorov is hurt

[direwolf]

C'mon guys, please tie this up.

[dissentowner]

Wait behind the net, then ice the puck. Smarten up.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Zadorov is hurt

Wait before you declare such things.

He's ok.

[flames_fan_down_under]

When was the last time Coleman had a remotely dangerous shot on goal?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I don't think Darryl is going to be happy with some of the defensive breakdowns tonight. Yikes.

[djsFlames]

Lindholm slacking. Let's go buddy.

[BigBrodieFan]

Oooh that hurt!!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Flames lucky not to down another goal or two. Blues with some wide open chances this period.

[Strange Brew]

Stick up the ass to shove him off the ice.

[DoubleK]

The runner seems to fall out of the holder a lot on these new skates.

[Fan in Exile]

How does that end up an extended 4-3 with one Blue crawling off the ice??

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Among goalies who have played 30+ games Markstrom is:

- 25th in high danger save percentage above expected;
- 15th in goals saved above expected per 60;
- 9th in low danger save percentage above expected:
- 13th in medium danger save percentage above expected;
- 3rd in goals against average;
- 5th in save percentage;
- 1st in shutouts

Flames are:
- 1st in expected goals percentage
- 2nd in Corsi
- 3rd in expected goal differential
- 1st in expected goals against (lowest)
- 1st in high danger shots allowed (fewest)

In the statistics which are meant to isolate the goalie performance from the team performance Markstrom is average. In the metrics which are are more team dependant Markstrom looks elite.

In terms of defensive play the Flames are elite.

There is certainly an argument to be made that Markstrom's elite numbers are the result of elite defensive team play.

At least that’s a proper statistical look at him
Though it seems like you have had a negative perception of Markstrom for a long time
For the record my view of him is he is a legitimate above average #1 goalie
I don’t put him amongst the true elite of the position.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I don't think Darryl is going to be happy with some of the defensive breakdowns tonight. Yikes.

The top line has led the pack.

Horrific puck decisions and brutal reads.

[dino7c]

Dang if that Stone shot got through

[dissentowner]

So sloppy.

[SnipeShow]

Gotta hand it to Stone, always comes in and looks reasonablyeffective after long bouts of no games

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