Russia invades Ukraine

[Byrns]

Seems like a good way to ensure you accidentally trip out the window.

[Firebot]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1509380546308280330

There's a ton you can find on twitter with a quick search, here is the twitter account of a Canadian volunteer accounting their progress towards Kherson including their march towards the city.

Fair warning some of his most recent tweets from 40 min ago are NSFL, Russian soldiers massacred en masse, half incinerated and severed heads, in the fight towards Kherson

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Firebot

https://twitter.com/user/status/1509380546308280330

There's a ton you can find on twitter with a quick search, here is the twitter account of a Canadian volunteer accounting their progress towards Kherson including their march towards the city.

Fair warning some of his most recent tweets from 40 min ago are NSFL, Russian soldiers massacred en masse, half incinerated and severed heads, in the fight towards Kherson

there's only one bridge out of Kherson and its at the far end of the city, the Russians are in real danger of getting trapped there

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

I would call that propaganda. On the wests side of things.

Why would Russian troops lay mines like that? Wide open and easy to see. Maybe to lure them around such an obvious death trap to the mines deployed to the side.

Makes no sense at all. Yes if one vehicle rolls over them 15 mines explode to take out one vehicle. Total waste of exposives. Again makes no sense!

This is like seeing a couch on Deerfoot. I go around. Again that is probably the plan. Propaganda aint it great!

Russian troop have radiation poisoning but the Ukrainian workers appear to be ammune?

More propaganda.

I do not know what to believe in this war.

I am 100 percent on the Ukraine side of things with one exception. They had a choice to join Nato but refused too. Now they beg and plead for weapons.

Hard to support a country that does not support our values.

Without nato this war would be over.

I have seen mine laid like that with my own eyes in Eastern Europe

Also, and my mine ID skills are rusty AF, many large mines have anti-lift mechanisms.

Your maybe right or you maybe wrong

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I have read elsewhere that many armies use mines like that to set up a temporary check point, the whole point is they can be seen so nothing passes over them and they can be picked up and taken away easily, its the anti tank equivalent of a baby gate

Oh what a mess you could make with a bowling ball. 100 meter strike right down the middle .

[indes]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Would be shocked if this isn't a bluff. Gas is their big source of money. I mean this invasion was stupid so wouldn't be shocking if they do something else stupid - but it would be stupid. Particularly in the spring/summer.







Those countries do rely on Ukraine/Russia - but other countries will fill the slack at least somewhat. Its dire, but its not as dire as some stats would have you believe.

I doubt this is a bluff. This might have been the plan from the start for the Eastern Bloc to get out from under the US dollar without having to go to war with them.

Russia is stockpiling gold and energy. Once Russia, China, India and other countries increase trading outside of the USD it will accelerate it's collapse. The petro dollar will have failed and the US will be extremely weakened.

The Ruble has bounced back vs the USD already. If anyone is bluffing it's the EU about not buying Russian energy in Roubles or gold. They won't have a choice at some point.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...c355cb37a1d619

https://youtu.be/xguam0TKMw8

[Pizza]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I have seen mine laid like that with my own eyes in Eastern Europe

Also, and my mine ID skills are rusty AF, many large mines have anti-lift mechanisms.

Your maybe right or you maybe wrong

lol

I love that you chose to post in the way that chubeyr1 would post

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by blankall

When did Ukraine refuse to join Nato? Yanukovych, who was basically a pro-Russian puppet before he was ousted by the Ukrainian people, seems to have been the only Ukrainian leader opposed to Nato Membership.

His post is revisionist history. Yanukovych was actually elected on the promises of pursuing EU membership and eventual NATO partnership, but right after he got elected, he accepted a $15 billion bail out (ie. bribe) from Russia to abandon that plan and join an economic union with the Russian Federation. The citizens were rightly pissed off and revolted in order to have new elections.

Ukraine decided what they wanted, but Yakunovych went against what they decided.

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by blankall

When did Ukraine refuse to join Nato? Yanukovych, who was basically a pro-Russian puppet before he was ousted by the Ukrainian people, seems to have been the only Ukrainian leader opposed to Nato Membership.

They have had over 30 years to join Nato. Chose not too.
You can make excuses but it has been over 30 years. Ousted in 2014. 8 years to join Nato since then. What has been the hold up?

[burn_this_city]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1509711522112708608

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I have seen mine laid like that with my own eyes in Eastern Europe

Also, and my mine ID skills are rusty AF, many large mines have anti-lift mechanisms.

Your maybe right or you maybe wrong

When this picture first surfaced here it was like this was like a war crime!

Mines being deployed on the road in plain sight is far from a war crime.

You said you have seen it yourself and I believe you. Did a western nation or a member of Nato do this when you served?

I would not say this is a war crime or a dirty tactic at all. Yet if you read the posts after the first image of this it was like how dare the Russians do this.

Seriously, read the posts here. War crimes, Ukrainian drivers license, Balls of Steel.

Propaganda.

Those mines while deadly will never be detonated. That said half the people that drive on Deerfoot would blow themselves up. We should probably do that in Calgary. Sure would show who is texting and driving.

[cal_guy]

Originally Posted by indes

I doubt this is a bluff. This might have been the plan from the start for the Eastern Bloc to get out from under the US dollar without having to go to war with them.

Russia is stockpiling gold and energy. Once Russia, China, India and other countries increase trading outside of the USD it will accelerate it's collapse. The petro dollar will have failed and the US will be extremely weakened.

The Ruble has bounced back vs the USD already. If anyone is bluffing it's the EU about not buying Russian energy in Roubles or gold. They won't have a choice at some point.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...c355cb37a1d619


https://youtu.be/xguam0TKMw8

The Russian imposed strict capital controls and hiked interest rates to 20%. Russia is extremely dependent on imports of goods and services that aren't easily replaceable such as complex machinery and oilfield service.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

When this picture first surfaced here it was like this was like a war crime!

Mines being deployed on the road in plain sight is far from a war crime.

You said you have seen it yourself and I believe you. Did a western nation or a member of Nato do this when you served?

I would not say this is a war crime or a dirty tactic at all. Yet if you read the posts after the first image of this it was like how dare the Russians do this.

Seriously, read the posts here. War crimes, Ukrainian drivers license, Balls of Steel.

Propaganda.

Those mines while deadly will never be detonated. That said half the people that drive on Deerfoot would blow themselves up. We should probably do that in Calgary. Sure would show who is texting and driving.

This stuff makes no sense. The mines were placed so the Russians could evacuate behind them, they are to prevent Ukrainians from potentially pursuing a retreating convoy. The spacing makes sense in the context of a tank or personnel carrier, not a passenger car.

There's no propaganda value here compared to the strikes on the maternity hospital in Mariupol or Kharkiv City hall.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

So those mines put out in the open like that is a great militarty tactic?

It is the worst positioning of mines one could do. I am not an expert but I do play video games lol.

The Ukraine could of joined nato for 30 years. They didnt!

Why not?

I should repost your meme of the old chick saying wat?

They should of joined.

They did not and now wish they did. Wat?

You are aware if they had joined there would not be a war right?

Wat?

Plans for NATO membership were shelved by Ukraine following the 2010 presidential election in which Viktor Yanukovych, who preferred to keep the country non-aligned, was elected President. Amid the Euromaidan unrest, Yanukovych fled Ukraine in February 2014.

[indes]

Originally Posted by cal_guy

The Russian imposed strict capital controls and hiked interest rates to 20%. Russia is extremely dependent on imports of goods and services that aren't easily replaceable such as complex machinery and oilfield service.

Russia has spent 8 years preparing for Western sanctions. We'll see how this all unfolds but the currency war thing makes more sense to me than Russia trying to take Ukraine. There are plenty of articles talking about Russian tankers turning off their transponders, countries won't stop buying Russian energy just because the US wants them to.

Europe will have to get their power from somewhere, I just don't see where else it can come from or how they can avoid paying Russia in the currency it wants.

Hopefully I'm wrong and Russia collapses on itself. I feel like we're at the end of the current financial system and China and Russia are going to use this war and sanctions to put the final nail in the coffin.

[burn_this_city]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1509715239427883010

[blender]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

They have had over 30 years to join Nato. Chose not too.
You can make excuses but it has been over 30 years. Ousted in 2014. 8 years to join Nato since then. What has been the hold up?

Nato membership has not been offered to Ukraine.

[Firebot]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1509636724384751627

Bountiful harvest this season

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by blender

Nato membership has not been offered to Ukraine.

You mean they didn’t just have to sign the application form and pay the $20 annual fee?

[photon]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

You mean they didn’t just have to sign the application form and pay the $20 annual fee?

It's a checkbox when you join Blockbuster