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		|  03-30-2022, 12:17 AM | #101 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jason14h  Tiger will never think he can win another tournament in his life on the PGA
 He isn't naive
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		|  03-30-2022, 05:02 AM | #102 |  
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					Originally Posted by Strange Brew  Why does he just happen to be around Augusta? |  
Champions dinner, promotion, get a few rounds in etc...
		 
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		|  03-30-2022, 07:01 AM | #103 |  
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What is that reaction? You think Tiger Woods is waking up in the morning thinking "I am on the road to recovery and competing on the PGA again?"
 
In the past 10 years Tiger woods have two PGA victories (I am excluding the ZoZo which isnt exactly a PGA event)
 
He went 7 years without a win and then through extensive rehab managed to rebuild his body and become the 2nd? oldest player to win a major at the time. That was 3 years ago
 
Even after the Major win his body was breaking down again.
 
Then he has a horrific car crash 14 months ago mangeling his leg. He is lucky he can walk. 
 
He is 46 years old, already had a failing body, is coming off a life threatening injury, and hasn't trained in 2 years effectively. He isn't sure he could walk four round of golf
 
Tiger woods isn't focusing on getting back into PGA shape and winning an event. His body is done. He is focusing on getting to a place of mental healthiness and golfing with his son. He has no delusions he will ever win a PGA event again. (He literally said "I will never play golf full time again)
 
There is a better chance Charlie Woods wins a PGA event then Tiger Woods going forward.
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		|  03-30-2022, 07:33 AM | #104 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jason14h  What is that reaction? You think Tiger Woods is waking up in the morning thinking "I am on the road to recovery and competing on the PGA again?"
 In the past 10 years Tiger woods have two PGA victories (I am excluding the ZoZo which isnt exactly a PGA event)
 
 He went 7 years without a win and then through extensive rehab managed to rebuild his body and become the 2nd? oldest player to win a major at the time. That was 3 years ago
 
 Even after the Major win his body was breaking down again.
 
 Then he has a horrific car crash 14 months ago mangeling his leg. He is lucky he can walk.
 
 He is 46 years old, already had a failing body, is coming off a life threatening injury, and hasn't trained in 2 years effectively. He isn't sure he could walk four round of golf
 
 Tiger woods isn't focusing on getting back into PGA shape and winning an event. His body is done. He is focusing on getting to a place of mental healthiness and golfing with his son. He has no delusions he will ever win a PGA event again. (He literally said "I will never play golf full time again)
 
 There is a better chance Charlie Woods wins a PGA event then Tiger Woods going forward.
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Why wouldn't the Zozo count?   It's a full fedex point tournament with a stacked field.  He had a pretty great 2018 season.
 
You might be right and he never contends again, as he does have a whole lot of things to overcome.   He didn't say he wouldn't golf full time again.  He said he'd never be full time on the pga tour.    
 
I'd guess he still has some hope that he can prepare for the majors and a couple tour events a year with a chance to win.  It sure looks like signs are pointing to him playing the masters this year, so he must think he has somewhat of a chance to compete.
		 
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		|  03-30-2022, 07:34 AM | #105 |  
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					Originally Posted by GirlySports  Champions dinner, promotion, get a few rounds in etc... |  
Prepare for the Masters…
 
That’s why he is there.
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		|  03-30-2022, 08:01 AM | #106 |  
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					Originally Posted by nfotiu  I'd guess he still has some hope that he can prepare for the majors and a couple tour events a year with a chance to win.  It sure looks like signs are pointing to him playing the masters this year, so he must think he has somewhat of a chance to compete. |  
Does Mike Weir still think he has a chance to compete    
The Master's are about more then competing when you are a champion. He is there with his son.
 
Time will tell but I don't think competing at a high level is anywhere on Tiger's mind. I think training his son is now his #1 priority.
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		|  03-30-2022, 08:10 AM | #107 |  
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			If you actually believe that Tiger isnt going to do everything in his pwer to become a competitive golfer again, you havent been paying attention.
 It consumes him and drives him beyond anything else.
 
 He may not be there...yet. However I have zero doubt that he wont at least attempt it. Maybe his body really has gone through too much to allow it, but that will not stop him from finding out.
 
 Is it "likely" he ever wins again? No.
 
 Is it likely he tries his damndest to win again? 100%.
 
 Im cheering for him. Golf has always been better when he was prevalant.
 
 And just an FYI...Jack Nicklaus was 46 when he won his last Masters....you dont think Tiger wants to better that?
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		|  03-30-2022, 10:34 AM | #108 |  
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					Originally Posted by transplant99  If you actually believe that Tiger isnt going to do everything in his pwer to become a competitive golfer again, you havent been paying attention.
 It consumes him and drives him beyond anything else.
 
 He may not be there...yet. However I have zero doubt that he wont at least attempt it. Maybe his body really has gone through too much to allow it, but that will not stop him from finding out.
 
 Is it "likely" he ever wins again? No.
 
 Is it likely he tries his damndest to win again? 100%.
 
 Im cheering for him. Golf has always been better when he was prevalant.
 
 And just an FYI...Jack Nicklaus was 46 when he won his last Masters....you dont think Tiger wants to better that?
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I don’t . I believe almost dieing and the physical strain his body has been under for the past 10 years has made him realize it’s time to shut it down competitively 
 
He also isn’t a fool who will drag himself for another 10 years incapable of performing at a top level. He knows he can’t compete anymore. 
 
There is a difference in not trying to get back into some resemblance of his old form and “thinking he can win” - which was my original statement 
 
He will have fun golfing and train his son . 
 
I know the Tiger lovers hope he has one more run in him but he doesn’t . No matter the will the body gives out (or has a catastrophic injury ) 
 
Tiger knows this . Some fans just don’t want to face it
 
Guess we’ll see! (As obviously this is all just my opinion and insight on the situation )
		 
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		|  03-30-2022, 10:40 AM | #109 |  
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			Tiger Woods wouldn't be Tiger Woods if he wasn't going to try to win and be competitive. 
 Will he ever win another tournament? Doubtful
 
 Is Tiger going to prepare with the goal of trying to win another tournament? 100%
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		|  03-30-2022, 12:20 PM | #110 |  
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			His chance of success probably mostly comes down to the state of his short game and putting.   He's not going to be dominant with his ball striking again, but based on the father son tourney, it looked good enough to be competitive.   
 I could see him being competitive at a Masters one year, since it has a small field and requires being good at so many elements.    If he can get his short game back to what it was, he could win.   That's a pretty big if though and is something older players start to lose, but his injuries shouldn't hold him back too much in that part of the game.
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		|  03-30-2022, 02:07 PM | #111 |  
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					Originally Posted by nfotiu  His chance of success probably mostly comes down to the state of his short game and putting.   He's not going to be dominant with his ball striking again, but based on the father son tourney, it looked good enough to be competitive.   
 I could see him being competitive at a Masters one year, since it has a small field and requires being good at so many elements.    If he can get his short game back to what it was, he could win.   That's a pretty big if though and is something older players start to lose, but his injuries shouldn't hold him back too much in that part of the game.
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		|  03-30-2022, 02:14 PM | #112 |  
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			Rory certainly wants too see Tiger back and hopes its at the Masters. 
He expects him to play again whether its next week or not though.
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		|  03-30-2022, 09:03 PM | #113 |  
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			Didn't meant to bring on such a debate with one shocked emoji reposes lol. That's my bad for not just responding to Jason14 with words. 
 My simple point was nothing to do with Tiger's ability or chances coming back from injury. It was simply a reposes to Jason14's idea that Tiger is aware of his limitations and chances and has taken them into consideration.
 
 Not a damn chance. That goes against everything Tiger has been his whole career. Nobody would have thought he'd ever win the Tour Championship or another Major either. It's not how his mind works. Guarantee you right now his entire mindset is that he can come back and win and every training session and goal he sets right now is geared towards coming and back and winning tournaments.
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		|  03-30-2022, 09:06 PM | #114 |  
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			Tiger will leave this sport swinging for the fences, not rationalizing that he's no longer in good enough shape to play, lol. 
 He may very well be done in terms of winning and that's another argument altogether, but no Tiger is not done in his own mind, not a chance. He's absolutely planning out when he can return and what tournaments he should play.
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		|  03-30-2022, 09:07 PM | #115 |  
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			And like the one poster mentioned, the quote was misinterpreted by Jason14. Tiger mentioned that he will likely not be a full time tour player again, which Jason took to mean that he won't be playing tournaments on the PGA tour. 
 His in depth interview was more clear than soundbites. He is preparing to come back and play tournaments here and there for the time being.
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		|  03-31-2022, 07:57 AM | #116 |  
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			It’s not even a debate.  Tiger has said that Ben Hogan  is his reference point who came back from a near fatal crash to win majors.
 No idea whether Tiger can win again and it does seem unlikely given his age but it’s clear that his goal is to get fit enough to play a reduced schedule.  And when he plays, it will be to win.  It’s obvious he is gauging his readiness for this years Masters.
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		|  03-31-2022, 08:07 AM | #117 |  
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			It’s funny because Tiger Woods has almost never been a full time player anyways. He has always played far less than any of these other number one types. I agree with everyone saying that he will at least try to be competitive again. If there’s anyone that can will themselves to compete again it’s Tiger Woods.
		 
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		|  03-31-2022, 10:31 AM | #118 |  
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					Originally Posted by metallicat  It’s funny because Tiger Woods has almost never been a full time player anyways. He has always played far less than any of these other number one types. I agree with everyone saying that he will at least try to be competitive again. If there’s anyone that can will themselves to compete again it’s Tiger Woods. |  
Exactly, and I don't think he was entirely saying he wasn't going to be full time because of the accident.   It's definitely part of the equation, but he was pretty much trending towards playing the majors and tournaments he had some relationship with.    It's not even unusual for a guy like him.   Nicklaus went through that phase, and that's where Phil has been for a while too.
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