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Old 03-24-2022, 12:53 PM   #541
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Will miss Grichuk the person, will not miss the player. He seemed like a very well liked teammate and proud Blue Jay, but good riddance otherwise.

Tapia sucks less than Grichuk and provides other elements we need.

This also negates any chance we had of signing Gardner.

Plus we got an intriguing prospect too. This trade is a win
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Old 03-24-2022, 12:58 PM   #542
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According to this analysis, Tapia could be a really good hitter with a few tweaks.

I'd imagine that's what the Jays will try to do with him.
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Old 03-24-2022, 01:00 PM   #544
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Wow, interesting move. Admittedly know nothing about Tapia.
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Old 03-24-2022, 01:24 PM   #545
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I honestly think Tapia is a downgrade on Grich (which is why we got a prospect too in the deal I think). He has very little power, and consistently has a wRC+ of 80-90, whereas Grich was closer to 95-105 range.

This feels like more of a money move than anything. Get a cheaper 4th OF whose impact vs Grich will likely not really be felt. He could be good off the bench for a speed option that isn't a liability in the field either.
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Old 03-24-2022, 01:28 PM   #546
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I won't miss Buck and Pat telling us how great Grichuk is
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I honestly think Tapia is a downgrade on Grich (which is why we got a prospect too in the deal I think). He has very little power, and consistently has a wRC+ of 80-90, whereas Grich was closer to 95-105 range.

This feels like more of a money move than anything. Get a cheaper 4th OF whose impact vs Grich will likely not really be felt. He could be good off the bench for a speed option that isn't a liability in the field either.
And a Lefty who makes contact. Good for hit and runs, etc off the bench late in games vs auto strike out
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Old 03-24-2022, 01:54 PM   #548
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Sorry am I forgetting someone on the infield ? Assuming Biggio platoons at 2nd and maybe the odd DH and OF spot INF seems pretty good

Catcher yes we have an extra for sure
Nope. My bad. I thought Tapia was a 2 bagger for some reason. Which would then have had Biggio, Espinal, and Tapia all fighting for playing time.
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Old 03-24-2022, 01:55 PM   #549
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Tapia has much better baserunning metrics than Grichuk does as well.
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Old 03-24-2022, 02:30 PM   #550
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Tapia
- can play CF = check
- is left-handed = check
- has speed on the bases = check

He's really the perfect 4th OF/bench guy that the Jays needed.
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I really like this trade, and I was actually a fan of Grichuk. I think Tapia has some untapped potential, but even if he does what he did last year, he will be a great 4th OF.
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Old 03-24-2022, 06:03 PM   #552
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According to this analysis, Tapia could be a really good hitter with a few tweaks.

I'd imagine that's what the Jays will try to do with him.
I get the feeling the Colorado Rockies front office is completely unaware of everything in that video.
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According to this analysis, Tapia could be a really good hitter with a few tweaks.

I'd imagine that's what the Jays will try to do with him.
That video makes me really excited to see what the Jays can do with him. What an enigma.

We know exactly what Grichuk brought to the table, but Tapia could end up being much, much more valuable if that launch angle comes up even to leave average levels.
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I really like this trade, and I was actually a fan of Grichuk. I think Tapia has some untapped potential, but even if he does what he did last year, he will be a great 4th OF.

Found him!
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The Grichuk trade and Toronto’s crowded catching situation

Tapia is a very professional hitter who is a career .280/.325/.395. He doesn’t have much power, but he can run a bit as he stole 20 bases in 2021. He is a contact hitter and a solid defender in left field.
I love this trade for the Jays. They needed a left-handed bat. The fact that Tapia is a contact hitter and adds speed are bonuses. But what makes the deal even better is the prospect the Jays acquired.
Pinto is a 19-year-old second baseman/shortstop/centre fielder who can fly. He is listed at 5-foot-6 and 156 pounds. He is tiny but he can play. He hit .360/.487/.543 in the Dominican Summer League and stole 41 of 49 bases in just 54 games played. He walked 38 times and only struck out 18 times.

Finally, the Jays have one of the top prospects in all of baseball in Gabriel Moreno. He is the complete package. He can hit and play defence and is even athletic enough to play third on occasion. Moreno will be ready for the big leagues at some point in 2022.
So, what does an organization do with four highly qualified catchers? It manages them with the idea that it is a long season, and the position is the most vulnerable to potential injuries.
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Surprised nobody is talking about the Rogers Centre being the home for at least the next 10-15 years.

As much as I'd like to have another place, to build another one so quickly is just wasteful, so from an environmental perspective, I'm on board.

I think what we're going to see given today's talk about renovations will be several things - some previously discussed by Shapiro and some new. Complete guesses for some but here goes:
  • Reorientation of the field - home plate where third is now to make the field non-symmetrical
  • New seating for the full 100-levels facing the action, more comfortable, more spacing
  • Box seating in the 100-levels
  • Fanzone of some sort in the 100-levels
Wouldn't surprise me at all if they end up squeezing 20 years out of it. Should be really really interesting.
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That’s awesome, it’s honestly a city landmark and the location is incredible, glad they’re going to put in the time to improve it. Is grass still not possible ?
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That’s awesome, it’s honestly a city landmark and the location is incredible, glad they’re going to put in the time to improve it. Is grass still not possible ?

While they're calling it a major renovation, they've alluded that it will be mostly to the 100-level. I'm really not sure about the field but those were some rumors from two years ago. Today they've suggested that there won't be renovations to the outside, so I imagine structurally regarding the concrete things will remain largely as is. I wish they poured money into painting that concrete a different shade or sealing it in a different way. It would change the look nicely as the shade is 80's.


As for grass not possible, I believe it was always possible, but they've always wanted it to be kept as a multi-purpose building and perhaps with the sprinkler systems required it just becomes to expensive to do whatever they need to cover the grass to ensure it doesn't get damaged, for however the Rogers Centre is structured. Seems like a simple enough thing to do, but perhaps the switching back and forth would require too much expertise to not damage a grass field.
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With the type of drainage that they would have to add for a building of this type, the watering system might be underground anyway, and not a sprinkler. They could do the entire diamond, but if I remember correctly it's much more economical to just do the infield and leave the outfield as turf.

I expect that they will do nothing, and it will continue to be horrible on the knees of every player that plays there.
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With the type of drainage that they would have to add for a building of this type, the watering system might be underground anyway, and not a sprinkler. They could do the entire diamond, but if I remember correctly it's much more economical to just do the infield and leave the outfield as turf.

I expect that they will do nothing, and it will continue to be horrible on the knees of every player that plays there.
What I kind of don’t understand at all is what is hard about putting some underlay under the fake grass? And isn’t there some padding with the new turf vs. a couple years ago? I find it a little tough to believe it’s like stepping on concrete as I’m sure mlbpa would have an issue as well as from the integrity to the game perspective where the ball bounces completely differently.
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