[GT] San Jose @ Flames: 03/22/22:

[browna]

Francis: Dube is fastest player on the team.
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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Well, I can say the same but in reverse. If Markstrom stop the long distance stinker, it becomes a non issue play. Monahan didn't get it out, it could happens to anyone. It's not like Monahan didn't get out and Sharks scored in a mad scramble. A long distance shot with no tip should never end up in the net.

Yeah, this is the point. Monahan hasn’t played very well so far tonight. But a softy like that and more complaints are about the little play at the blue line. Roll the video back and there’s a bunch of the same plays on both teams. The difference there was the non-save.

That certainly isn’t “Monahan can do no wrong”. It’s “let’s apportion blame a little more reasonably on that play”.

[iggyloob12]

Monahan no longer on PP2. Needs to show something at 5-on-5 and soon.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by browna

Francis: Dube is fastest player on the team.
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Him or Kylington

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by browna

Francis: Dube is fastest player on the team.
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He has a claim. Him, Kylington and maybe Coleman.

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by browna

Anyone blaming Monahan on that was has a pretty clear agenda.

Markstrom is actually being respectful, not wanting to break Kiprusoff's shutout record.

Or could be a poor turn over and poor goal.

[Hockey_Ninja]

It’s crazy that Vlasic was the 2nd rounder we traded for Kipper

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Yobbo

Such a shame to see Sean, a mere shell of the player he used to be. Seems like he's moping all the time lately. Body language isn't good.

I don't think he's moping, I think he's extremely frustrated with his body.

Was lucky to get pretty good seats for the Devils game and paid very close attention to Mony. He doesn't look right, his first stride doesn't look to have much power or be particularly quick. His hands looked to be fine, but it's pretty tough to stick handle standing still in the NHL.

[howard_the_duck]

Dube is the fastest in the team.

[dino7c]

The goal is bad, Markstrom rarely let's those in though. If Monahan can't get a puck out 2 feet from the Blueline he won't be in the lineup long. Sure it wasn't a great chance but it often is on a turnover like that.

Would be nice if they showed a replay where you could see the traffic ect. and not just the extreme closeup

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Could you imagine if that was Johnny turning over the puck luck that.

Monahan having a prominant role in goals against seems to be happening on a regular basis. The same can't be said about him having prominant roles in goals for.

That's why the "what if player X made that same bad play" argument doesn't work.

[expo2428]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

It’s crazy that Vlasic was the 2nd rounder we traded for Kipper

I honestly remember looking who the draft pick turned out to be when I was a kid and everytime I watch Vlasic play I always say that's the player/pick that was traded for kipper lol

[Ducay]

Both can be true at the same time. Monahan can be a bum at the same time it was a soft goal and not totally his fault

[FlamesAddiction]

On Carpenter

Francis: I hate the term "spare part". It's so demeaning to the player.

Then goes on to refer to him as "it".

[timbit]

You know who else can fly?

Longer strides…Zadorov.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Dube is the fastest in the team.

He's in the conversation. But I would guess Kylington, personally.

[Yobbo]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I don't think he's moping, I think he's extremely frustrated with his body.

Was lucky to get pretty good seats for the Devils game and paid very close attention to Mony. He doesn't look right, his first stride doesn't look to have much power or be particularly quick. His hands looked to be fine, but it's pretty tough to stick handle standing still in the NHL.

I've not seen a game live this year so I trust your word seeing him up close and personal. I can understand him being frustrated as he's such a young guy and knows he's nowhere near the player he once was. It's frustrating for us fans too.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by timbit

You know who else can fly?

Longer strides…Zadorov.

His top speed is there. It just takes longer to to get there.

[expo2428]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Both can be true at the same time. Monahan can be a bum at the same time it was a soft goal and not totally his fault

This 100%. I don't hang around here often during the intermissions but you guys have just spent 12 minutes debating something which player was at fault but the reality is both screwed up, both could've made each other look better but got to move on with the game at some point and hope both players rebound and have each other's back for the rest of the game.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

He's in the conversation. But I would guess Kylington, personally.

Kylington certainly has better edges, combined with top speed. Dube is more straight ahead.