03-21-2022, 08:19 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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03-21-2022, 08:23 PM
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Does Dadonov have a say in it now? Like could he just waive his NTC?
From his point of view, it probably sucks being on a team that he knows just tried to trade and sees him as expendable.
Of course, it would also be unfair to him to put the decision on him because if he says no to the trade, the other players might see him as the reason other more effective players can't be activated to play.
Kind of sucks for Dadonov either way.
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03-21-2022, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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So it seems like if Dadonov didn't submit his 10-team list for this year by the contract deadline last summer, he basically ended up with a full NTC for this year.
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03-21-2022, 08:26 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Does Dadonov have a say in it now? Like could he just waive his NTC?
From his point of view, it probably sucks being on a team that he knows just tried to trade and sees him as expendable.
Of course, it would also be unfair to him to put the decision on him because if he says no to the trade, the other players might see him as the reason other more effective players can't be activated to play.
Kind of sucks for Dadonov either way.
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Well if it has gotten to this point, it likely means Dadonov does not want to go to Anahiem. It would be Dadonov's agent telling the league about the problem.
If he was willing to go the NTC issue would be moot...
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03-21-2022, 08:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus
So it seems like if Dadonov didn't submit his 10-team list for this year by the contract deadline last summer, he basically ended up with a full NTC for this year.
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Either that, or by missing the deadline, he waived his NTC.
Or, the logical decision - it was the same list as the year before. Which included Anaheim.
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03-21-2022, 08:29 PM
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Re: Dadonov trade.
This is the kind of stuff that makes the NHL look like a Mickey Mouse league. Straight up embarrassing.
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03-21-2022, 08:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Well if it has gotten to this point, it likely means Dadonov does not want to go to Anahiem.
If he was willing to go the NTC issue would be moot...
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Oh, I see. I kind of assumed that the NHL noticed Dadonov's contract had a clause asked Vegas for the trade list before they would process the trade and Vegas couldn't produce one, so the trade was nixed by the league possibly with no input from Dadonov.
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03-21-2022, 08:33 PM
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This is on vegas. They should know the contract clauses for their players. If the list had the ducks on it then they should have gotten him to sign the waiver.
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03-21-2022, 08:34 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Either that, or by missing the deadline, he waived his NTC.
Or, the logical decision - it was the same list as the year before. Which included Anaheim.
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The precedent set by Berglund is that if a player doesn't submit their list by the deadline set forth in the contract, the team is free to trade them to wherever they want but who knows how differently Berglund's NTC is written compared to Dadonov.
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03-21-2022, 08:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Either that, or by missing the deadline, he waived his NTC.
Or, the logical decision - it was the same list as the year before. Which included Anaheim.
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Yeah I think any of the three could be possibilities depending on the drafting and construction. Interesting. I think it would hinge on whether the player could submit a list or must submit a list.
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03-21-2022, 08:54 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1506101774532423681
If it was filed on time (7/1/2021) it was while he was a member of the Senators.
Maybe it is their fault for this whole mess.
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03-21-2022, 08:55 PM
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Haha, stupid Vegas
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03-21-2022, 09:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus
So it seems like if Dadonov didn't submit his 10-team list for this year by the contract deadline last summer, he basically ended up with a full NTC for this year.
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No...the question is whether he would have no NTC at all, or if his list from the previous year would carry over.
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Re: Dadonov trade.
This is the kind of stuff that makes the NHL look like a Mickey Mouse league. Straight up embarrassing.
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This stuff happens in all leagues. The Chris Paul to the Lakers trade. Baseball and football have plenty of other things to be embarrassed about.
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
The precedent set by Berglund is that if a player doesn't submit their list by the deadline set forth in the contract, the team is free to trade them to wherever they want but who knows how differently Berglund's NTC is written compared to Dadonov.
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The difference with Berglund is it was the first year his M-NTC kicked in - he had full NTC in 17-18 which changed to a 20 team no-go list on July 1, 2018 - and STL made the trade that very day.
Dadonov's NTC terms seem to be a consistent 10 team no-go list each year. The question seems to be whether you need to submit a list each year even if there are no changes to it.
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03-21-2022, 09:06 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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03-21-2022, 09:08 PM
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The thread title makes it sound like the thread didn’t go thru because of some sort of Ocean’s Eleven situation at NHL offices. Or maybe Tre jammed the fax lines to keep the trade from going thru.
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03-21-2022, 09:08 PM
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#78
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watch Vegas still get out of this somehow
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03-21-2022, 09:09 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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03-21-2022, 09:14 PM
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Don't contracts get filed with the NHL?
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