03-20-2022, 01:22 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
NHL letters are easily one of the most over-rated and ultimately meaningless aspects of team-building.
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Disagree there, the captian C doesn't get headed out around the league casually. Especially with am expansion franchise, and while there's definitely a symbolic aspect to it, it's also meant a sign of stability because captains don't change year by year in most teams.
I don't expect that the Seattle team is now falling apart with wide eyed rookies shocked becuase their captain was traded. However, Seattle didn't have to name a capitan, the Flames haven't, so for them to do that IMO still means they think he was going to be the foundation they build up, for more than 1 year.
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03-20-2022, 01:24 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Brodano re United. Guess we will see if there's any magic left in the tanks.
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03-20-2022, 01:24 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by chubeyr1
Seattle was stupid for taking gio in the first place.
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Seattle’s entire expansion draft was moronic, but Giordano being chosen was far from their worst choice.
They took Dunn instead of Tarasenko, Driedger from Florida. They then went out and spent money foolishly in free agency.
They are a poorly managed organization
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03-20-2022, 01:25 PM
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#44
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubeyr1
Seattle was stupid for taking gio in the first place.
You are trying to build a team for the future and you take a guy a couple of years from retirement...
They will get assets for Gio, and have to wait to see if those assets years later every play a game in the nhl...
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But, this is exactly what building for the future looks like.
Seattle is going nowhere for at least the first four or five years. A player like Kyllington doesn't help them much now; he is exactly the kind of player a team needs at the start of their competitive window.
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03-20-2022, 01:26 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Good to see Brodano reunited. I don't dislike the Leafs as much as most do (other than the ones who come out of the woodwork at the 'Dome) so I'm glad Gio gets another shot at a playoff run.
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03-20-2022, 01:27 PM
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#46
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Seattle’s entire expansion draft was moronic, but Giordano being chosen was far from their worst choice.
They took Dunn instead of Tarasenko, Driedger from Florida. They then went out and spent money foolishly in free agency.
They are a poorly managed organization
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I agree that Seattle is poorly managed, but I also distinctly remember them being lauded heavily for selecting an up-and-coming goalie like Driedger.
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03-20-2022, 01:28 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubeyr1
Seattle was stupid for taking gio in the first place.
You are trying to build a team for the future and you take a guy a couple of years from retirement.
I like Gio, always have. You don’t build a team around a defenseman that has lost a step and will retire soon.
They should of taken Kylington. 15 years younger and now playing top line minutes in Calgary.
They will get assets for Gio, and have to wait to see if those assets years later ever play a game in the nhl.
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OT here, but think it's a pretty big question mark whether Kylington would've had the same opportunity to play the style he is playing now, under Haskstol and with whatever d partner he would have in Seattle, in front of lesser goaltending and not nearly as strong a defensive help/system that the Flames forwards play.
Oliver has fully earned this with the Flames, but a ton of credit goes to a coaching staff who has him play a role that suits his strengths and a partner who helps him in the way he does, and that is something that can never be discounted about this team this season.
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03-20-2022, 01:30 PM
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#48
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Lifetime Suspension
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Am I happy he's a leaf?
Not really. But this made a ton of sense for Toronto. He's the kind of d-man they desperately need and somehow he's even better paired with Brodie.
And he gets to go home. Good for him!
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03-20-2022, 01:30 PM
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#49
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
OT here, but think it's a pretty big question mark whether Kylington would've had the same opportunity to play the style he is playing now, under Haskstol and with whatever d partner he would have in Seattle, in front of lesser goaltending and not nearly as strong a defensive help/system that the Flames forwards play.
Oliver has fully earned this with the Flames, but a ton of credit goes to a coaching staff who has him play a role that suits his strengths and a partner who helps him in the way he does, and that is something that can never be discounted about this team this season.
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Yeah, Kylington could very well have been a disaster in Seattle. Giordano felt like the "safe pick": even in a terrible season he has a reputation and name-cache that is easy to move at the TD. If Kylington had stumbled, then they likely end up with nothing in the end.
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03-20-2022, 01:31 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Gio's first season in the NHL was 2005-06. Neither he nor the Leafs have played a game in the second round of the playoffs in that time.
Is this the deal that both needed to break those curses?
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03-20-2022, 01:32 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I am happy for Gio this was a top 2 destination for him for sure. Would love to beat him in the finals this year.
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03-20-2022, 01:33 PM
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#52
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All I can get
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Seattle took Giordano with the full intention of flipping him at trading deadline.
Flames made the right move exposing him.
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03-20-2022, 01:33 PM
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#53
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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I kinda feel bad for Gio. Wants a cup before he retires but now he has to watch his former team win one while he shakes hands with them.
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03-20-2022, 01:34 PM
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#54
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Disagree there, the captian C doesn't get headed out around the league casually. Especially with am expansion franchise, and while there's definitely a symbolic aspect to it, it's also meant a sign of stability because captains don't change year by year in most teams.
I don't expect that the Seattle team is now falling apart with wide eyed rookies shocked becuase their captain was traded. However, Seattle didn't have to name a capitan, the Flames haven't, so for them to do that IMO still means they think he was going to be the foundation they build up, for more than 1 year.
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Doesn't the contrast between Calgary and Seattle amply demonstrate just how meaningless a letter can be?
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03-20-2022, 01:34 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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It was reported the Kraken wanted a 1st not to take Gio in the expansion draft.
I doubt they got one from Toronto.
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03-20-2022, 01:34 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Seattle took Giordano with the full intention of flipping him at trading deadline.
Flames made the right move exposing him.
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The odd part was naming him captain
Probably another first round loss for Gio
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03-20-2022, 01:35 PM
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#57
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zamboniman
I kinda feel bad for Gio. Wants a cup before he retires but now he has to watch his former team win one while he shakes hands with them.
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No. Toronto is going nowhere with that goaltending, and I am not convinced that a desperate TD acquisition fixes that.
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03-20-2022, 01:35 PM
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#58
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Scoring Winger
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TSN and Sportsnet scrambling to find alternate programming for tomorrow ����
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03-20-2022, 01:37 PM
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#59
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
The odd part was naming him captain...
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I don't think it was all that odd. It was a nice gesture made toward Giordano, and I think was a big deal for their fans.
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03-20-2022, 01:38 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Taking him out East and guaranteeing he doesn't return to Calgary - seems like a win to me.
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