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Old 03-15-2022, 09:39 AM   #9901
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But who knows how good the team would be with a new player? We know how good the team is with Johnny and Tkachuk as the best players. It's really good.

Why change the plan just because you think something might be better?

I hope if we acquire Chiarot, Pelletier is not involved. But IMO we do have to keep up with Colorado in some respects.
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Old 03-15-2022, 09:41 AM   #9902
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I think that no matter what happens, Calgary wants to extend their window for at least another year. Tarasenko + Neighbors + 2023 1st would be the start. Kryou is good but doesn't drive the play like Tarasenko. If they can only keep one of Johnny or Matty, they keep Johnny. Ideally keep both somehow.
The whole purpose of moving Tkachuk to get a decent replacement yes, but also to be able to sign the rest of the roster. Only way we get Tarasenko is if St.Louis is willing to retain 50%. I highly doubt they are. If they would then that would be a good move.
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Old 03-15-2022, 09:44 AM   #9903
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Ben Chiarot for Monahan + Kylington

Or Ben Chiarot for Monahan + ...

and Kylington for 3rd line C.
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Old 03-15-2022, 09:52 AM   #9904
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Ben Chiarot for Monahan + Kylington

Or Ben Chiarot for Monahan + ...

and Kylington for 3rd line C.


Are you trying to make the team worse?
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Old 03-15-2022, 09:56 AM   #9905
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Are you trying to make the team worse?
I just saw "The hockey writers" news "Flames & Canadiens Having Discussions on Chiarot & Pelletier"
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Old 03-15-2022, 09:59 AM   #9906
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Dear Ken Holland. Ben Chairot is exactly what your team needs to put it over the top. Swoop in and get him before anyone else can!
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:04 AM   #9907
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Dear Ken Holland. Ben Chairot is exactly what your team needs to put it over the top. Swoop in and get him before anyone else can!
Bourgeault + pick for Chiarot is a perfect trade.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:18 AM   #9908
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I'm not against picking up another defenseman - hell, I'm all for it - because you can never have too many during the playoffs.

My issue with it is that I think we need a forward more. And I don't think we have the cap space for both.

Given the choice, I would much rather add a middle-6 forward
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:19 AM   #9909
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I just saw "The hockey writers" news "Flames & Canadiens Having Discussions on Chiarot & Pelletier"
And so you thought you would up the offer?

I don't think that's how negotiations are supposed to work
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:19 AM   #9910
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It's a buyer's market on D this year, zero chance Chiarot gets Pelletier.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:22 AM   #9911
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If the Flames want rentals, and they want both a forward and defenseman, they can get what they want so long as they are truly prepared to go "all in" and spend 2023 picks and/or a top prospect like Pelletier. If they want to package someone like Monahan on the way out they'll end up paying even more.

Thats the fun of going all in. You can leave with nothing. They could spend the picks, lose a top prospect and get bounced in round 1.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:27 AM   #9912
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Flames GM Treliving ahead of trade deadline: 'We’re certainly looking to add to our roster'

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...to-our-roster/

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Old 03-15-2022, 10:29 AM   #9913
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I think we all agree the idea of Ben Chiarot for a prospect like Jakob Pelletier is a ridiculous price. So the question is - what would you want to pay for Chiarot?

https://calgaryhockeynow.com/calgary...eal-canadiens/
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:31 AM   #9914
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Bringing Pelletier up to play would have a more positive impact on the team than trading for Chariot.

You’re taking a good defender out of the lineup to play Chariot. You’re taking a plug forward out to inject Pelletier into the lineup.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:37 AM   #9915
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What about 1st 2023 + Monahan for Giroux?
Solves allot of off season problems as well as helps go for it this year.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:38 AM   #9916
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What about 1st 2023 + Monahan for Giroux?
Solves allot of off season problems as well as helps go for it this year.
I think it’s been publicly stated that Giroux would not waive to come to Calgary.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:39 AM   #9917
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I mean Chariot is a bit redundant on the roster. You need someone like Kulak to come in and eat popcorn. Someone experienced enough to pop into the lineup in case of injury and you are not worrried about it.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:49 AM   #9918
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What about 1st 2023 + Monahan for Giroux?
Solves allot of off season problems as well as helps go for it this year.
Philly wouldn't do it even if Giroux waived. Prevents them from signing him back next year.

The value of Giroux is likely a 1st+. They may retain, but they won't take a large non-expiring contract back, because they don't have to. They would just keep him before they did that.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:54 AM   #9919
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Performance wise, yeah absolutely look to move Monahan at the deadline.

I worry what it would do to the dressing room on a reportedly tight knit group.

Almost smells like the Ference for Stuart trade. That reportedly really rocked the room.
100% this.

Best post of this thread.
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Old 03-15-2022, 10:57 AM   #9920
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Philly wouldn't do it even if Giroux waived. Prevents them from signing him back next year.

The value of Giroux is likely a 1st+. They may retain, but they won't take a large non-expiring contract back, because they don't have to. They would just keep him before they did that.
I also don't know why people aren't hearing that it's widely believed Giroux won't come to a Canadian team.
Giroux is a non starter for the Flames. It ain't happening.
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