2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Reggie Dunlop]

Ooooh Chucky robbed.

[FusionX]

There had been some chatter about Barzal earlier and now he's injured and the Isles are still ok, likely missing the playoffs though.

Could we pry him out with a Monahan, 1st (2024), Coronato, Valimaki, 2nd?

Essentially Barzal for 1st, Valimaki and Coronato, Monahan comes with a 2nd. Unlikely to get it done and he's probably not available anyways but that would be huge for this year's push imo. His RFA deal goes for one more year so it's not a rental and the AAV is essentially a wash with Monahan's.

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Barzal - Toffoli
Lewis/Dube - Backlund - Coleman
Lucic - Dube/Ruzicka - Ruzicka/Ritchie/Richardson

[NewFan]

Will Seattle eat a little bit salary and trade Gio for Kylington?
I think other teams will target Kylington and Hamilton in the playoffs.
And Kylington needs salary rise next season.
Tanev and Gio will be a good pair for playoff hockey.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by NewFan

Will Seattle eat a little bit salary and trade Gio for Kylington?
I think other teams will target Kylington and Hamilton in the playoffs.
And Kylington needs salary rise next season.
Tanev and Gio will be a good pair for playoff hockey.

Hard pass.

I love Gio, but why would you trade a kid that is a decade younger and just starting to hit his stride?

Tanev and Kylington are already a great pairing

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by NewFan

Will Seattle eat a little bit salary and trade Gio for Kylington?
I think other teams will target Kylington and Hamilton in the playoffs.
And Kylington needs salary rise next season.
Tanev and Gio will be a good pair for playoff hockey.

One, they can't
Two, you can't be serious

[NewFan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

One, they can't
Two, you can't be serious

I'm serious. For me, Kylington will demand a good rise next year.
Will we have a cap space after Johnny, Chucky and Mangi extension?
And we all know Tanev affect for his partner. Hughes was a super star when he played with Tanev. I think Kylington's trade value is highest at the moment because he plays with Tanev and he plays for a good structured team.
But when the playoff starts he may be the weaker part in our D.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I'm serious. For me, Kylington will demand a good rise next year.
Will we have a cap space after Johnny, Chucky and Mangi extension?
And we all know Tanev affect for his partner. Hughes was a super star when he played with Tanev. I think Kylington's trade value is highest at the moment because he plays with Tanev and he plays for a good structured team.
But when the playoff starts he may be the weaker part in our D.

well, a) you don't know if he will be a weaker part of the D in the playoffs and b) you are moving an asset for salary for an old D man with no assets coming back?

Sure, he's going to get a raise, but you'd be better off trading him in the offseason for something. And if you are concerned with his play dropping without Tanev, then don't move him away from Tanev...

Gio has how many years left in those legs? I'd rather roll the dice on a Kulak or Chara as they wouldn't cost you potentially a very good player.

[Enoch Root]

Kylington is 24, which is still a puppy for defensemen. He is just scratching the surface of what he can be.

Trading him for a 38 year old rental is an absolutely atrocious idea

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I'm serious. For me, Kylington will demand a good rise next year.
Will we have a cap space after Johnny, Chucky and Mangi extension?
And we all know Tanev affect for his partner. Hughes was a super star when he played with Tanev. I think Kylington's trade value is highest at the moment because he plays with Tanev and he plays for a good structured team.
But when the playoff starts he may be the weaker part in our D.

Seattle isn't allowed to retain on Gio to Calgary

Kylington is about the last guy to trade because of cap space for next season...Gio doesn't have a stellar playoff career either.

Look how far Kylington has come in a few months...Flames would be absolutely insane to trade him for a 38 year old UFA.

Monahan, Lucic, Dube, are the guys you move if you need to money...not Kylington

[NewFan]

I just think, this is the year we need to try to make the team as good as possible for the playoff run. If you can improve your team right now trading Kylington, I'd do it.
Would you like Tanev - Kylington pair or Tanev - Gio pair for the playoffs?

And no team will trade their good players for Monahan, Lucic, Dube.
Lucic and Dube are okay for me for their roles. And Monahan is not tradable at this moment.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I just think, this is the year we need to try to make the team as good as possible for the playoff run. If you can improve your team right now trading Kylington, I'd do it.

Well if you want to trade Kylington to improve the team then you trade him for Chychrun, not for Giordano

But why trade him at all? If you want to improve the team, trade picks and prospects, not Kylington

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I just think, this is the year we need to try to make the team as good as possible for the playoff run. If you can improve your team right now trading Kylington, I'd do it.

As bad as I think your idea is its also impossible...Seattle is not allowed to retain salary on a player being traded back to the team that lost them in the expansion draft...So the Flames would be adding about 6M in salary.

These playoffs are big but if you can get the big guys signed and lose some dead weight the team might actually be better next season.

[Owee18]

Originally Posted by NewFan

Will Seattle eat a little bit salary and trade Gio for Kylington?
I think other teams will target Kylington and Hamilton in the playoffs.
And Kylington needs salary rise next season.
Tanev and Gio will be a good pair for playoff hockey.

Why are people wanting Gio back so bad? He had a great career with the flames. We moved on and now look at the team. MAYBE part of the issues the team had before within has moved on. Enjoy what he brought and did, but we are much better without brining him back and messing up what chemistry the team now has.

[Bonded]

Flames D looks miles better without Gio. Why disrupt something that's working

[Roof-Daddy]

Have I mentioned that I would like the Flames to trade for Jarnkrok lately?

Because I would like that very much...

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I'm serious. For me, Kylington will demand a good rise next year.
Will we have a cap space after Johnny, Chucky and Mangi extension?
And we all know Tanev affect for his partner. Hughes was a super star when he played with Tanev. I think Kylington's trade value is highest at the moment because he plays with Tanev and he plays for a good structured team.
But when the playoff starts he may be the weaker part in our D.

If Kylington’s trade value is highest at the moment, why are you trading him for Gio, who’s value is pegged as a 2nd round pick.


I still can’t believe you are being serious.

And it means next year you go in with 3 dmen signed.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

This is the new Tyler Myers contract. They are big, and they get paid.

I wonder what the Flyers do this summer. I'd almost expect them to take a run at re-signing Giroux (even if he is traded at the deadline).

Their roster isn't bad. On the back-end they have:

Provorov - Ellis
Sanheim - Ristolainen
York - ?

and then up front they have Couturier, Hayes, Laughton down the middle which isn't terrible.

I feel like they should maybe take a more boring approach to this coming off-season, as the change for the sake of change certainly did them no favours this past summer. This year they've only had Couturier for 29 games and if you look at the Flames I'd hate to see where we would be if we only had Lindholm for half of the games this year - those sort of injury problems cause real problems. Ellis has also only played 4 games this year which has to have caused issues as well.

The Flyers have been bad, but their roster is not as bad as their record. Most teams would falter if they lost their #1D (Ellis) and #1C (Couturier) for most of the season, and their #2C (Hayes) and #2LW (Farabee) to lengthy injuries as well.

[agulati]

I don’t think we should tinker with our defense, with the exception of a depth acquisition.

But the amount of shade Gio is getting lately is definitely in excess. Yes, the team has been loads better this year, but the entire team was underachieving the last couple of years. The difference is Sutter. It isn’t an addition by subtraction of Gio. I’m confident that if we still had Gio, he would have been excelling in Sutter’s system as well.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by NewFan

I just think, this is the year we need to try to make the team as good as possible for the playoff run. If you can improve your team right now trading Kylington, I'd do it.
Would you like Tanev - Kylington pair or Tanev - Gio pair for the playoffs?

And no team will trade their good players for Monahan, Lucic, Dube.
Lucic and Dube are okay for me for their roles. And Monahan is not tradable at this moment.

At the beginning of the year it felt like there was a gaping gap on the blueline, but now I don't see it. And if anything I think there is real risk in messaging with some impressive established chemistry each pairing has.
That all gets tossed out if there is an injury. And next to Johnny the second most important player on this team is arguably Tanev.
But you can't totally solve for that anyways.
I think the team needs a solid #7 that they would trust to step in over Juuso (who they don't) or Stone (who hasn't played).

Which should be easy to get.

But otherwise I don't mess with a good thing. Each pairing has found their stride.

[transplant99]

Yeah i don't think any D acquisition would be brought in to bump out any of the existing players but merely for depth in case of injury and the odd game off down the stretch to help with "load management".... ie; rest by taking a game off.

Since Stone is there and a RH/RD, they need a LH/LD to fill the same role once rosters are expanded.

"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Let Mackey/Jusso and crew do their thing in Stockton and get all the minutes they can handle in their own stretch drive where the pressure is ratcheted up.