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Old 03-03-2022, 10:47 PM   #101
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The turning point was the Zadorov penalty if I had to pick one...it was a pretty tough break too
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Old 03-03-2022, 10:48 PM   #102
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Deserved to lose, interesting choices for lineups in OT. Really getting tired of Backlund in OT blowing up and having 2 on 1 coming back at us. Vividly remember this at least a couple times this year.

Move on I guess, but that was frustrating to watch.
You have to play your Centers in OT and if you don't use Backlund, the pickings are very slim. He just has to be better there IMO.
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Old 03-03-2022, 10:56 PM   #103
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:06 PM   #104
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I bet Sutter lit up his locker room before meeting the media.

That is one angry coach.
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Won’t be surprised to see Kylington scratched either. He has been overall awesome all year but his leash is short for whatever reason. Immediately yanked from PP2 after the gaffe tonight, didn’t see OT.
Have to agree here. Might have been one of his worst games this year. Looked like Bambi so many times tonight....maybe trying to do too much - took himself out of position too many times. He'll be fine, but might need to reign it in a touch.
As has been said, he certainly wasn't alone...rough one all around. Bury the Avs.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:14 PM   #106
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the worst team in the NHL beat the best team in the NHL tonight in regulation...it happens, don't overthink it
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:30 PM   #107
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A 2 goal lead in the first and it's game over? A 2 gaol late in the second and it isn't? We both know that doesn't really make any sense.

It's not like Flames dominated the first and were on their way to mentally beating them. Montreal was better team that entire period.

There was no single turning point in this game other than the GWG obviously. Flames were off, Montreal was pretty good and there you have it.
Going up 2-0 instead of 1-1 would've had the Flames on track for the blueprint they've used for most of the games in the winning streak. Get a lead of one or two, withstand the subsequent pushback, from better teams than the Habs, with solid defence, get the next goal, and watch their confidence rise while the other team either gets frustrated and makes mistakes, or shuts down and the Flames get 5 or more goals.

The game was effectively over vs Minnesota two nights ago when the Flames answered 20 seconds to go up 3-1 mid 2nd, after the Wild finally broke through to make it 2-1 after pushing and pushing.

Flames had gone up on Minnesota by multiple goals the first game last week, the second game vs them a few days back too. St Louis earlier too when we beat the 6-1 here.

Key in those games was the Flames withheld a push back when it was 1-0 or 2-0 from those far better teams and then got the next goal.

Tonight, the Kylington gaffe gave Montreal an excellent chance out of nowhere and a chance they didn't give up against the above mentioned teams at those critical parts of the game,. The shorthanded goal buoyed the Habs after the Flames missed a glorious chance.

We can agree to disagree but if Toffoli scores there at that point and they don't give up a shorthanded goal, IMO Flames win that game 5-1 or 5-2 at least.

That is becuase a very good chance the Flames would regained the swag they had in the streak by going up by multiple goals, and the rest of the game by the Flames doesn't turn near as sloppy as they did defensively after it was 1-1, which also would translate to less penalties taken and the momentum the Habs got and built on from those 5 on 3s through the game.

But, take the point and the sting from the loss and poor play with make them better. Flames were in the Canucks game even at 3-0 with good push back after each goal, then Vladar goes in cold and it's 5-0 and over.

Long story short, not worried at all after this game, as it shows IMO an untimely mistake at the wrong time can derail things, which the Flames have avoided mostly in the past calender month. Sutter will have them well aware of that.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:55 PM   #108
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Great to hear the coach point out bad habits and history. Honestly may not be happy with the result, but happy issues are being identified and worked out.

Full confidence he will have the guys ready to play
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Old 03-04-2022, 12:01 AM   #109
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Love that Sutter doesn't let even a single sloppy game slide.

He watched this team before he took over and knows where this team was falling short and the bad habbits that were evident before he came into the picture.

Discipline was a big issue under Ward. Blame the refs all you want but the players do have control of that.

They also were not playing as fast as what's been their baseline this year.

Just the way Sutter speaks to the media makes me feel like I need to smarten up lol.

He'll have them ready to go in Colorado.

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Old 03-04-2022, 12:12 AM   #110
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"this team is famous for that (turnovers). I've tried to break them out of it". Love to hear it.
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"this team is famous for that (turnovers). I've tried to break them out of it". Love to hear it.
Interesting that it was the Swedes tonight with the key giveaways.

Kylington on goal 1
Markstrom the first penalty on the 5 on 3 (junk call on Zadorov).
Lindholm with the giveaway on the 4-3 goal late.
Backlund with the scared/lazy/pushover giveaway putting the Habs 2 on 1 vs Toffolli (and Andersson also out of position, not his fault, he wasn't expecting Backlund to cough it up so easily) in OT.
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the worst team in the NHL beat the best team in the NHL tonight in regulation...it happens, don't overthink it
It was in OT
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Old 03-04-2022, 01:18 AM   #113
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It was in OT
he means colorado vs arizona.
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Old 03-04-2022, 01:24 AM   #114
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Uncharacteristically sloppy game. They didn’t play as poorly as the vcr game. But didn’t bury the habs when they had the chance
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Old 03-04-2022, 04:30 AM   #115
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Hm, not the result I wanted to wake up to. Ah, well. Next time!
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Old 03-04-2022, 06:13 AM   #116
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Dome pareto principle: 50% capacity 100% effort by Flames

100% capacity 50% effort by Flames
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Old 03-04-2022, 06:55 AM   #117
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Take the point and run. Was 1 more point then they deserved.

Go back to being an environmentalist Suzuki.
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Old 03-04-2022, 07:32 AM   #118
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I think Lucic and Monahan need to be split up.

Dube-Monahan-Toffoli

is the best option

Also, lucic-ruzicka-Lewis has by far been our best 4th line all year


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I will say the early returns on St. Louis have to be a little encouraging for Habs fans. That team played hard like the game meant something to them in the standings.
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Old 03-04-2022, 07:45 AM   #120
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Is it me or has Lucic gone a little quiet in 2022? He scored 8 goals in their first three months and has only scored one since December. I realize that the team doesn't count on him for offense but he's on the 2nd powerplay unit at times and is on a 3rd line so more offense would be expected of a player getting this usage. It seems to me he would be better in strictly a 4th line role and no powerplay time.
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