03-03-2022, 11:12 AM
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#2641
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Pointman
It's not a movie or a video game. Putin is not going through be magically assassinated tomorrow. It's about finding feasible practical solutions that don't hinge on a Superman coming in and saving the world.
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Yes lets talk about ways to satiate Putin.
Forgive me if I am not super excited about findings way to appease Putin out of a problem created by Putin.
The solution is the that Russia turns around and rolls their ####ty military home.
This whole thing pisses me off and makes me wish The West had listened to Patton.
The country is a ####ing ####hole.
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03-03-2022, 11:14 AM
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#2642
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Russia being cutoff from SWIFT means they can't access markets. At all.
Even if they sent physical truckloads of Rubles to China to purchase things, no one wants Rubles.
They will become paralyzed and won't be able to continue the war. They'll need to quit as millions at home starve.
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Swift is just a messaging system however to authorize wire transactions. There are alternative messaging systems. Russian can pivot to and use CIPS which is China's banking messaging system and of course the whole point of crypto is to set up alternatives to these sort of things.
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03-03-2022, 11:14 AM
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#2643
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
It's not a movie or a video game. Putin is not going to be magically assassinated tomorrow. It's about finding feasible practical solutions that don't hinge on a Superman coming in and saving the world.
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Never have I wished for a post to age poorly more than this one.
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03-03-2022, 11:15 AM
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#2644
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Table 5
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I think it would only work if there was a neutral nation defending and administrating it and there was a no fly zone over the corridors that was patrol by armed neutral aircraft.
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03-03-2022, 11:15 AM
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#2645
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Pointman
Good point. Thank you. I guess those countries will have to amend it.
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Ya, which I don't see happening, revisionist history. Maybe they could have agreed to a fair and open vote, then if the vote was yes NATO/EU gets Ukraine and Russia gets Crimea; but we are long past that type of corporation.
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03-03-2022, 11:16 AM
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#2646
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Yes lets talk about ways to satiate Putin.
Forgive me if I am not super excited about findings way to appease Putin out of a problem created by Putin.
The solution is the that Russia turns around and rolls their ####ty military home.
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I mean we all get it, no one here likes Putin or what Russia is doing, but you're just being super unrealistic, and I'm not sure what it accomplishes other than maybe some cathartic purpose for you personally where it feels good to keep posting "#### them all" over and over again.
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03-03-2022, 11:17 AM
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#2647
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
What does your own situation look like Pointman, are you staying in Russia and riding out the economic collapse?
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I'm still in Moscow. There's no collapse. Yet. Ruble lunged, but prices didn't really jump, at least yet. People are terrified. Future is uncertain. I was to enroll my daughter into first grade of English school, to start at September first, but they said they put enrollment on hold. I also still can't renew the US passport which expired when she turned 5, over a year ago. Other than this, I feel no collapse. Yet
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03-03-2022, 11:20 AM
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#2648
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
I'm still in Moscow. There's no collapse. Yet. Ruble lunged, but prices didn't really jump, at least yet. People are terrified. Future is uncertain. I was to enroll my daughter into first grade of English school, to start at September first, but they said they put enrollment on hold. I also still can't renew the US passport which expired when she turned 5, over a year ago. Other than this, I feel no collapse. Yet
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Are you well stocked with food and supplies? I'd be loading up on non-perishables. Like, months and months worth. Also, things you can barter(cigarettes? not sure on that). Expecting things to stay normal sounds like a big gamble. Even if Putin pulls out today, I'd expect months of sanctions to make life pretty difficult on you. The west isn't just going to remove them immediately.
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03-03-2022, 11:21 AM
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#2649
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I mean we all get it, no one here likes Putin or what Russia is doing, but you're just being super unrealistic, and I'm not sure what it accomplishes other than maybe some cathartic purpose for you personally where it feels good to keep posting "#### them all" over and over again.
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Well, there is literally nothing this thread can actually accomplish in this conflict so we might as well lock it up.
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03-03-2022, 11:22 AM
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#2650
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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I would prepare as though martial law will be implemented and everything will run out in days.
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03-03-2022, 11:23 AM
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#2651
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by blankall
Russia is still using a lot of equipment that was designed as early as the 50s. They do have newer equipment, but it sounds like they are deploying a lot of the old stuff first.
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A lot of the tanks being deployed were manufactured in the late 80s (saw lots of the broken down models referencing 1989) which means they were designed in the 70s.
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03-03-2022, 11:24 AM
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#2652
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I think it would only work if there was a neutral nation defending and administrating it and there was a no fly zone over the corridors that was patrol by armed neutral aircraft.
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Ya without that I'd bet on Russia attacking civilian convoys and trying to blame it on Ukrainian "nazis"
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03-03-2022, 11:25 AM
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#2653
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I mean we all get it, no one here likes Putin or what Russia is doing, but you're just being super unrealistic, and I'm not sure what it accomplishes other than maybe some cathartic purpose for you personally where it feels good to keep posting "#### them all" over and over again.
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You're ####ing right it is cathartic as ####.
But as has been mentioned, this thread means #### all in the scheme of things.
You do you.
I'll do me.
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Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
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03-03-2022, 11:29 AM
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#2654
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Once of the worst case scenario my wife and I are facing as I cannot get a hold of my wife any longer. She texted me today saying she was moving to a new location, as her village was extremely dangerous and they were moving to a cousin's house. I have no idea where it is or how they are getting there. Last I heard from her, she was able to send me a couple normal SMS texts saying she had no internet, and she made it to the new place. She tried calling me and it kept getting cut out and disconnecting. All I could make out was she made it and a message of love. Now I'm unable to make a connection to her by any method.. Have tried various apps, email SMS gateways and still nothing. Not sure if my messages are getting thru and she can't answer, or vice versa.
What a disaster the last week has been, and now this. #### you Putin.
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Hey HW, this could be the reason for the loss of connection:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1499450451779010571
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03-03-2022, 11:44 AM
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#2655
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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03-03-2022, 11:46 AM
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#2657
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Swift is just a messaging system however to authorize wire transactions. There are alternative messaging systems. Russian can pivot to and use CIPS which is China's banking messaging system and of course the whole point of crypto is to set up alternatives to these sort of things.
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It is easier said than done to just go out and buy $100 billion worth of crypto. If you were sitting on massive reserves, would you exchange them for Rubles?
And then there is the other small problem, which is that they don't have any money to buy it with.
Their rocket is skint!
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03-03-2022, 11:47 AM
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#2658
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bob-loblaw
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lol 60km long line of vehicles and they couldn't fit a few tanker or food trucks in there?
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03-03-2022, 11:49 AM
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#2659
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Ya without that I'd bet on Russia attacking civilian convoys and trying to blame it on Ukrainian "nazis"
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Exactly, I'm more worried about Russian air and artillary at this point.
Coridoors mean nothing if they're not defended, and the Russian's will refuse to let Ukraine defend it as they can ship arms up it. Russian's can't be trusted because they'll want to delay or slow down or destroy convoys.
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Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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03-03-2022, 11:58 AM
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#2660
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
A lot of the tanks being deployed were manufactured in the late 80s (saw lots of the broken down models referencing 1989) which means they were designed in the 70s.
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I've seen a lot of T-72's (1970's) T-80's (80's) and T-90s (depending on the variants these are the newest tanks in the Russian arsenal). Though there are rumors that the T-14 is in production, they're not deployed here.
Their anti-aircraft stuff that I've seen is pretty modern.
I've also seen a bunch of BMP-3s and 2s, which have gone through modernization but based on a 80's design.
I've also seen a ton of BTR-80's which are a late 90's design but probably their most modern personal carriers.
I can't comment on the airforce though I did see a couple of Su-35's and Havoc attack helicopters which are pretty much front line modern aircraft.
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