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Old 03-01-2022, 10:19 AM   #9301
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At some point in time though Ruzicka will be on our third line.

Maybe not this year but if you look at his trajectory, it's not absurd to think that next year he would be more than capable to flourish in that role.

At some point in time we cannot afford to pay our third line centre 6.375 million. We already have Looch making big money and having these contracts in the bottom 6 restricts our ability to add true top 6/top 4 talent.

Think of it this way, without Looch and Monahan the flames could sign everyone and even maybe swing at Forsberg this summer. It's crazy how much cap space we could save in having a cheaper bottom 6.
If Ruzicka and Pelletier and maybe Zary all take a step that would be ideal. Ruzicka had a great 3 game stretch but Sutter sure seems to have cooled on him.
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I wonder if we could snag Debrusk for Dube + Valimaki

Debrusk-Monahan-Toffoli would be pretty interesting imo.
I really like Debrusk, and I think he’s a prime candidate to break out with a change of scenery. I wonder though, if we’re giving up those two assets, perhaps it would be better to see if we could get Brandon Hagel? He’s younger, a bit more gritty, and producing offense on a crappy team. Plus, he makes 1.5M for two more years, while Debrusk is RFA this summer after making 3.6M.

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I really like Debrusk, and I think he’s a prime candidate to break out with a change of scenery. I wonder though, if we’re giving up those two assets, perhaps it would be better to see if we could get Brandon Hagel? He’s younger, a bit more gritty, and producing offense on a crappy team….
The cost on Hagel would be quite high, as the Hawks have only made him available in case someone wants to overpay. I believe they are talking about a first round pick plus a very good prospect.
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I listened to the boomer in morning talk about trading for another C which is exactly what they should be targeting if anything. But the available talent pool just isn't there I think.

Even trading Monny (which seems overwhelmingly understood as imperative moving forward) doesn't help the playoffs push.

Not sire what Tree could do to bolster the C depth. Even if the Flames C depth after Monny is woefully shallow.
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Old 03-01-2022, 12:00 PM   #9305
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The cost on Hagel would be quite high, as the Hawks have only made him available in case someone wants to overpay. I believe they are talking about a first round pick plus a very good prospect.
Well, we’re not far off. Valimaki is a first-round pick, and looking at the ‘hawks D, I think he would be very appealing to them. Not sure what else could be done…
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Old 03-01-2022, 12:01 PM   #9306
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I listened to the boomer in morning talk about trading for another C which is exactly what they should be targeting if anything. But the available talent pool just isn't there I think.

Even trading Monny (which seems overwhelmingly understood as imperative moving forward) doesn't help the playoffs push.

Not sire what Tree could do to bolster the C depth. Even if the Flames C depth after Monny is woefully shallow.
Marcus Johansson can play C….
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Old 03-01-2022, 12:01 PM   #9307
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At some point in time though Ruzicka will be on our third line.

Maybe not this year but if you look at his trajectory, it's not absurd to think that next year he would be more than capable to flourish in that role.

At some point in time we cannot afford to pay our third line centre 6.375 million. We already have Looch making big money and having these contracts in the bottom 6 restricts our ability to add true top 6/top 4 talent.

Think of it this way, without Looch and Monahan the flames could sign everyone and even maybe swing at Forsberg this summer. It's crazy how much cap space we could save in having a cheaper bottom 6.
I agree with the bolded; I just think that time will be the off season.

Even with Monahan out for no AAV back we probably can't afford to keep everyone...Looch out too would allow us to keep everyone and sign a few depth players for more than league min, but certainly not chase big UFAs.
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Marcus Johansson can play C….
Is he an upgrade though? This isn't the MOJO from the caps we'd be looking at. His games has slid over the years. And I still believe Monahan is a big part of this roster despite the lack of production.
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When Backlund looked like he might go down against Winnipeg, that did scare me, as I'm not so Confident current Sean Monahan can step into a larger role and fill a void if needed.

As others have suggested, some type of Swiss Army type who can go between Center and the wing in a pinch and be able to hold water in tough assignments would be a nice add.

Unable to get past my 2004 thinking, a Marcus Nilsson or Stephane Yelle type.
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Old 03-01-2022, 12:26 PM   #9313
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Is he an upgrade though? This isn't the MOJO from the caps we'd be looking at. His games has slid over the years. And I still believe Monahan is a big part of this roster despite the lack of production.
MJ would help our third and fourth line depth, whether he plays C or wing. His numbers have diminished, but he’s still a gritty, two-way guy who can play all 3 forward positions, and be a shutdown guy. He only makes 1.5M, but goes UFA in the summer.
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Old 03-01-2022, 12:27 PM   #9314
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When Backlund looked like he might go down against Winnipeg, that did scare me, as I'm not so Confident current Sean Monahan can step into a larger role and fill a void if needed.

As others have suggested, some type of Swiss Army type who can go between Center and the wing in a pinch and be able to hold water in tough assignments would be a nice add.

Unable to get past my 2004 thinking, a Marcus Nilsson or Stephane Yelle type.
Marcus Johansson?
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I would sure like to see Paul Stastny as a rental for the rest of year. He adds that depth we need at centre and could move Monahan to a wing or a 4th line/power play specialist.
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When Backlund looked like he might go down against Winnipeg, that did scare me, as I'm not so Confident current Sean Monahan can step into a larger role and fill a void if needed.

As others have suggested, some type of Swiss Army type who can go between Center and the wing in a pinch and be able to hold water in tough assignments would be a nice add.

Unable to get past my 2004 thinking, a Marcus Nilsson or Stephane Yelle type.
Exactly what this team should be looking to add.
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Old 03-01-2022, 12:42 PM   #9317
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I would sure like to see Paul Stastny as a rental for the rest of year. He adds that depth we need at centre and could move Monahan to a wing or a 4th line/power play specialist.
Well, the Jets are almost a write off now. But this is a 36 year old who's already missed a bunch of games. And has one more point than Monahan (albeit in less games and way more at ES). He was pretty quiet in last year's POs. Copp would be better from the Jets IMO. And Getzlaf is a half year older, with more points and a slightly lower cap hit. Jarnkrok is a better option as well.
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Statsny is interesting in that he's a C/LW with really strong defensive metrics this season.

He'd be a lot cheaper to acquire than Copp as well.

Statsny is a name that checks a lot of boxes depending on the asking price
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Statsny is interesting in that he's a C/LW with really strong defensive metrics this season.

He'd be a lot cheaper to acquire than Copp as well.

Statsny is a name that checks a lot of boxes depending on the asking price
The money might be tough to work with Statsny. But he would be a higher level type of add. Although, teams who can absorb more salary likely have a better chance to make a deal as the Cap number will chase off a few teams.

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Marcus Johansson?
Marcus Johansson and Calle Jarnkrok are others that have come up a fair bit too. Not sure how much Center Jarnkrok plays, but he's a guy I think will have a lot of interest. Both have pretty light contracts so a lot of teams will be able to consider either of these guys. Johansson has been stuck on a lot of bad teams since leaving the Capitals but was effective for the Bruins in their cup run when they added him as a Deadline acquisition. So perhaps he is a guy who can slide into a 4th line role to get used to a new team and offer more if needed. I really have no idea how much he's been used at Center this year. But the idea is a guy who can play there if it becomes a need, and still fit with the 9-12 forwards which I think he could do.
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Friedman saying the Canucks are full Firesale!

Only guys they aren't dealing are Petterson,Hugh's,Demko.
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