02-27-2022, 11:01 AM
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#1561
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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A couple of the oligarchs voice concern and plead for peace
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Two Russian billionaires, Mikhail Fridman and Oleg Deripaska, called for an end to the conflict triggered by President Vladimir Putin's assault on Ukraine, with Fridman calling it a tragedy for both countries' people.
Billionaire Fridman, who was born in western Ukraine, told staff in a letter that the conflict was driving a wedge between the two eastern Slav peoples of Russia and Ukraine who have been brothers for centuries.
"I was born in Western Ukraine and lived there until I was 17. My parents are Ukrainian citizens and live in Lviv, my favourite city," Fridman wrote in the letter, excerpts of which Reuters saw.
"But I have also spent much of my life as a citizen of Russia, building and growing businesses. I am deeply attached to the Ukrainian and Russian peoples and see the current conflict as a tragedy for them both."
Russian billionaire, Oleg Deripaska, used a post on Telegram to called for peace talks to begin "as fast as possible".
"Peace is very important," said Deripaska, who is the founder of Russian aluminium giant Rusal, in which he still owns a stake via his shares in its parent company En+ Group.
On Feb. 21, Deripaska said there would not be a war.
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02-27-2022, 11:03 AM
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#1562
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by Pointman
Russia has surely destroyed its reputation and it will take decades to restore it. We can only hope that in our days of close international contacts on personal level and many multinational projects from playing online games to programming open sources together, it would heal up faster than in the past. I was already thinking that will probably identify myself as Jewish rather than Russian next time I will be in a foreign country.
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While there are always cooler times, Russia really needs to turn towards actual democracy and openness for people to start fundamentally seeing the country differently.
It's very easy for non-Russians to see Russians as somewhat monolithic, because as a nation it IS fairly monolithic. Power is so centralized. There's one seat of power and one public truth. We don't get to see the actual differences within the country, it's all just grumbling against Putin, it's not politics in the normal sense.
A mad leader in Germany or France trying to start a world war would just get hospitalized these days. That's why they're not scary even if someone outsiders really dislike gets to power.
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02-27-2022, 11:04 AM
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#1563
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Governments being very open now with their suport and sending of lethal weapons.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1497982746123247623
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02-27-2022, 11:22 AM
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#1564
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Lifetime Suspension
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Just my opinion but the early narrative that these were the cannon fodder and the strong troops were next seems to been crumbling. Putin's side chick Ramzan Kadyrov sent in his top dogs and the Ukrainian people are continuing to push back.
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02-27-2022, 11:24 AM
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#1565
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagor
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Could the EU recommend that Ukraine be admitted to NATO? To me that's better than mailing Bob the Baker a rocket launcher.
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02-27-2022, 11:27 AM
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#1566
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Next up. Denmark.
It's like everyone is openly expressing they're sick of the bully.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1497991756666875905
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02-27-2022, 11:27 AM
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#1567
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1497999348117999616
Translated Tweet:
Bayraktari at work. Our operators are jeweling columns of enemy troops. The Russian beech in the area of Raspberry of the Zhytomyr region was destroyed. Fear, enemies! There will be no peace for you on our earth!
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02-27-2022, 11:32 AM
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#1569
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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02-27-2022, 11:33 AM
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#1570
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
Could the EU recommend that Ukraine be admitted to NATO? To me that's better than mailing Bob the Baker a rocket launcher.
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Short answer is no.
Two very different and seperate institutions with very different criteria and standards that have to be met for membership.
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02-27-2022, 11:37 AM
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#1571
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
Just my opinion but the early narrative that these were the cannon fodder and the strong troops were next seems to been crumbling. Putin's side chick Ramzan Kadyrov sent in his top dogs and the Ukrainian people are continuing to push back.
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Kyiv mayor just tweeted that Kyiv is surrounded. Ukrainians might eventually turn the tide, but it hasn't happened yet.
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02-27-2022, 11:45 AM
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#1573
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Hey bud, troops will carry a lifetime of baggage as well
Some will carry a lot some a little, but all will ####ing carry baggage
Trust me
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Thanks brother
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02-27-2022, 11:48 AM
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#1574
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Those Turkish drones seem exceptionally effective. You wouldn't think a drone could get the drop on an BUK anti aircraft battery like that.
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02-27-2022, 11:48 AM
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#1575
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nsd1
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Lol! Gotta 'Social Distance.'
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If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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02-27-2022, 11:49 AM
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#1576
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
While I wasn't alive back then, I don't recall Germans as a nation receiving much hate after WW2. Or WW1 for that matter.
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France and the UK absolutely did hate Germany after WWI, the Treaty of Versailles was constructed to punish and humiliate them. After WW2 there wasn't anyone left to hate, the entire Nazi leadership was either dead or arrested and their military was disbanded. It's hard to hate a country when you now control it and are working to rebuild it. I don't think that's going to happen in Russia's case
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02-27-2022, 11:52 AM
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#1577
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob-loblaw
https://twitter.com/user/status/1497999348117999616
Translated Tweet:
Bayraktari at work. Our operators are jeweling columns of enemy troops. The Russian beech in the area of Raspberry of the Zhytomyr region was destroyed. Fear, enemies! There will be no peace for you on our earth!
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Interesting that there is no GPS label on the drone.
I wonder how much the GPS network with Ukraine is out of service on both sides.
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
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02-27-2022, 11:54 AM
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#1578
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nsd1
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Russian top military seems to HATE Putin for this war. This is humanity's best hope.
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02-27-2022, 11:58 AM
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#1579
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeneas
Saw unbelievable video of 2 Russian APC’s or tanks getting pelted with Molotov cocktails.
On YouTube. Says it’s from last night.
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If it's this video it's from 2014
https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting...ils_in_action/
Still a good reminder of why moltovs are useful against armor, not much a tank can do when you can't see where you're going and the air intakes start sucking in smoke
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02-27-2022, 12:02 PM
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#1580
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
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Link is broken by the stupid swear filter. Replace hash marks with the F word, if anyone wants to view it.
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