02-27-2022, 10:22 AM
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#1541
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
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Appears to be deleted. Summary?
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02-27-2022, 10:26 AM
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#1542
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Was that just East Germany? I was young when the wall came down, but I don't remember much anger towards to the West German side?
East Germany was also part of the Soviet sphere so that contributed to the feelings toward them.
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My parents grew up during World War II and only recently have they started to become kind of OK with Germans of any sort, there was a lot of (understandable) distrust of both sides of Germany from their generation.
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02-27-2022, 10:27 AM
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#1543
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
I hope this is tongue in cheek as today's Germany is not the country or government of 90 years ago.
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Hmmm....while true. Do we really want Germany to be the dominant economic and military power in Europe?
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02-27-2022, 10:28 AM
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#1544
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by Locke
Hmmm....while true. Do we really want Germany to be the dominant economic and military power in Europe?
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What's the worst that could happen?
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02-27-2022, 10:30 AM
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#1546
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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I think you guys underestimate in which dire state the German Bundeswehr really is. This is not a military force that would scare anyone, even if they invest heavily. Frankly, money hasn't even been the problem, they've just spent it poorly.
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02-27-2022, 10:32 AM
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#1547
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
Appears to be deleted. Summary?
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Huh, must have been false info, I still had the tab open, this was it:
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02-27-2022, 10:34 AM
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#1548
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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02-27-2022, 10:36 AM
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#1549
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Behind you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
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Now ban Russian oil imports Canada. Still no ban from what I saw on Canadian sanctions website states only a ban on exports of oil and oil supplies to Russia.
US has still not banned oil imports from Russia either.
What is the hold up?
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02-27-2022, 10:40 AM
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#1550
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burn13
Now ban Russian oil imports Canada. Still no ban from what I saw on Canadian sanctions website states only a ban on exports of oil and oil supplies to Russia.
US has still not banned oil imports from Russia either.
What is the hold up?
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It appears the US and Canada are letting Europe lead on sanctions. It makes sense as they are the ones you are likely to have to deal with Russia if something crosses a red line with them.
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02-27-2022, 10:40 AM
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#1551
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How much Russian energy does Canada import, and what's the alternative source? I know the USA gets something like 7-8% from them but I have no idea how much we get.
Regardless, even if both Canada and the USA do this, that's not that harmful, we're not the big fish. Europe is where the money's made.
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02-27-2022, 10:40 AM
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#1552
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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02-27-2022, 10:44 AM
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#1553
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chilliwack, B.C
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
While I wasn't alive back then, I don't recall Germans as a nation receiving much hate after WW2. Or WW1 for that matter.
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Hate was massive great documentary on this called After Hitler, if you were German you were a huge target for rape, murder and loss of property.
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02-27-2022, 10:47 AM
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#1554
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bagor
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This will be huge in suppressing euroskeptics going forward.
Putin has committed a catastrophic error.
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02-27-2022, 10:47 AM
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#1555
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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I think this may be the biggest ' White Collar War' we have ever seen. The west cant fight with boots on the ground but we can wage a White Collar war.
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02-27-2022, 10:49 AM
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#1556
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by starseed
This will be huge in suppressing euroskeptics going forward.
Putin has committed a catastrophic error.
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Everyone thought he was a genius working up divisions in Europe and NATO (and maybe he was) but he's brought them back together in 4 days.
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02-27-2022, 10:51 AM
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#1557
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Behind you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
It appears the US and Canada are letting Europe lead on sanctions. It makes sense as they are the ones you are likely to have to deal with Russia if something crosses a red line with them.
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But the EU has already blocked Swift for some Russian banks, which will essentially strangle oil supply from Russia. The EU has kind of already crossed the red line?
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02-27-2022, 10:54 AM
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#1558
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryred
Hate was massive great documentary on this called After Hitler, if you were German you were a huge target for rape, murder and loss of property.
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Eventually people were able to distinguish between Germans and Nazis, focusing more hatred on the latter. Today the Russians causing trouble are indistinguishable from other Russians. The perpetrators must be ostracized by Russians the same way Germans ousted the Nazis in order to get past this.
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02-27-2022, 10:54 AM
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#1559
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman
Russia has surely destroyed its reputation and it will take decades to restore it. We can only hope that in our days of close international contacts on personal level and many multinational projects from playing online games to programming open sources together, it would heal up faster than in the past. I was already thinking that will probably identify myself as Jewish rather than Russian next time I will be in a foreign country.
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Yikes. Let me know how that goes for ya. Anti-Semitism still shows up a lot more often around the globe than anti-Russian sentiment.
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02-27-2022, 10:55 AM
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#1560
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Saw unbelievable video of 2 Russian APC’s or tanks getting pelted with Molotov cocktails.
On YouTube. Says it’s from last night.
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