[Signing] Flames sign Zadorov to 1 year deal worth $3.75 mil

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Aaaand… then they make it legal to confiscate money from people who disagree with them, and threaten to make that provision permanent.

We're not as far from Russia as you think. But your ill-thought-out attempt at political smears is noted.

Aaaand they made it legal to to confiscate money from dumbasses who were breaking the law for weeks on end, which is exactly what they should do, so that it becomes easier to stop them from breaking the law.

Speaking of ill-thought-out attempts......

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Aaaand… then they make it legal to confiscate money from people who disagree with them, and threaten to make that provision permanent.

We're not as far from Russia as you think. But your ill-thought-out attempt at political smears is noted.

Yeah, no.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dino7c

It's always been legal to take money from people breaking the law and raising money to break the law

As it should be

Then why are the additional provisions in the Emergencies Act required, and why does the government wish to make them permanent?

It has, in fact, never been legal to take money from ANYONE without due process of law. Until now. No court order needed, no warrant, not even reasonable suspicion… just poof! it's gone. You have no problem with that? Then I hope your money goes next.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

In Canada, our fascist government makes us wear masks and punishes us with mandates if we won't get a......*gulp*.....vaccine. I know, it's hard to even type it out.

By ‘mandates’ you mean ‘banished from your occupation and have your property confiscated without any defence in court’?

And by ‘vaccine’ you mean ‘experimental mRNA therapy, which does not work in the same way as vaccines, and which was approved on an emergency basis without the normal testing required for new drugs’?

Gee, I can't imagine why anybody would be uncomfortable with those things.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yeah, no.

Crowdfunding platforms appear to agree with me, not you.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

By ‘mandates’ you mean ‘banished from your occupation and have your property confiscated without any defence in court’?

And by ‘vaccine’ you mean ‘experimental mRNA therapy, which does not work in the same way as vaccines, and which was approved on an emergency basis without the normal testing required for new drugs’?

Gee, I can't imagine why anybody would be uncomfortable with those things.

90+% of normal people have no problem with it.

Just the whiny minority with their tinfoil hats on.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

By ‘mandates’ you mean ‘banished from your occupation and have your property confiscated without any defence in court’?

And by ‘vaccine’ you mean ‘experimental mRNA therapy, which does not work in the same way as vaccines, and which was approved on an emergency basis without the normal testing required for new drugs’?

Gee, I can't imagine why anybody would be uncomfortable with those things.

You didn’t have to take mRNA vaccines if you didn’t want to and you can still be considered fully vaccinated. Just get AstraZeneca or J&J. But your use of “experimental” is not what scientists consider experimental.

Mandates meany you had to satisfy a condition for employment, yes. You can be banished from several occupations for not having the right government imposed requirements - it’s not an actual issue. And here was no confiscation of property. There was attachment, which is not uncommon.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

90+% of normal people have no problem with it.

Just the whiny minority with their tinfoil hats on.

####.
Take it to the polyasshat forum, please.

Edit: Not just you, Roof-Daddy.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

90+% of normal people have no problem with it.

Just the whiny minority with their tinfoil hats on.

I know you think Canadians hate freedom, love being ordered around by the government, and 90%+ think Justin Trudeau is a wonderful leader. Doesn't make it so.

I've dealt with enough petty bureaucrats in this country who have told me I have no rights. Not that I didn't have the right to do the particular thing I was asking for permission to do: NO RIGHTS, PERIOD. It was their position that they could do anything they wanted to me, because I had no human rights at all. Back in the day, such people actually prevented me from getting the high-school education that was supposedly my right to receive; it took me years to find a workaround so I could proceed to the point of getting a real education.

There are plenty of people in this country who would love to be tyrants given the chance. Those who don't face this fact are fools. I'm not sure whether you're the former or the latter, but you seem to have foreclosed any other option.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You didn’t have to take mRNA vaccines if you didn’t want to and you can still be considered fully vaccinated. Just get AstraZeneca or J&J. But your use of “experimental” is not what scientists consider experimental.

My use of ‘experimental’ is what the health-care system considers experimental. All new drugs are experimental until granted approval – and key steps in the approval process were deliberately skipped in order to rush these drugs to market.

Incidentally, you cannot simply choose to get AstraZeneca or J&J. When I signed up for vaccination, I had to take whichever vaccine was available at one of the very limited number of pharmacies where I could get an appointment. At that time, J&J had not even been approved in Canada. At no time was it possible for me to take anything BUT an mRNA injection.

I'm double-vaccinated and boostered myself. But I don't blame anyone who chose differently, and I don't believe it should be made compulsory. Above all, I do not believe people should be deprived of their livelihood without due process – EVER – for any reason, let alone for refusing to get a shot.

Apparently this makes me a tinfoil-hat-wearing lunatic. God, I hate Canadians sometimes.

Mandates meany you had to satisfy a condition for employment, yes. You can be banished from several occupations for not having the right government imposed requirements - it’s not an actual issue.

It's an actual issue when the government suddenly imposes new requirements that have absolutely nothing to do with fitness to perform the job.

And here was no confiscation of property. There was attachment, which is not uncommon.

That's not what numerous news reports are saying.

[Eric]

How bout those Calgary Flames though?

[blender]

Back on topic, I feel like Zadorov will be a cap casualty for sure.
Hope Mackey is paying attention to how the big Russian plays Sutter's system.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Eric

How bout those Calgary Flames though?

The Big Red Machine, amirite?

Their defense is like the iron curtain

They have really been Putin the puck in the net lately

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by blender

Back on topic, I feel like Zadorov will be a cap casualty for sure.
Hope Mackey is paying attention to how the big Russian plays Sutter's system.

I would love to see the Flames extend him, but I just don't see how it's possible with their other contract requirements

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by blender

Back on topic, I feel like Zadorov will be a cap casualty for sure.
Hope Mackey is paying attention to how the big Russian plays Sutter's system.

Mackey doesn’t have quite the same tools though.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Mackey doesn’t have quite the same tools though.

Yeah, I like Mackey and I think he probably becomes an NHLer.

But the Flames have guys like Mackey. As Sutter said, their D was butter-soft and they needed to change that. Zadorov changes that. Mackey doesn't.

(nothing against Mackey)

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I know you think Canadians hate freedom, love being ordered around by the government, and 90%+ think Justin Trudeau is a wonderful leader. Doesn't make it so.

I've dealt with enough petty bureaucrats in this country who have told me I have no rights. Not that I didn't have the right to do the particular thing I was asking for permission to do: NO RIGHTS, PERIOD. It was their position that they could do anything they wanted to me, because I had no human rights at all. Back in the day, such people actually prevented me from getting the high-school education that was supposedly my right to receive; it took me years to find a workaround so I could proceed to the point of getting a real education.

There are plenty of people in this country who would love to be tyrants given the chance. Those who don't face this fact are fools. I'm not sure whether you're the former or the latter, but you seem to have foreclosed any other option.

Awwww poor baby.

Nice straw man argument.

Me saying 90%+ of CDNs being fine taking a perfectly safe vaccine is not me saying 90+% of CDN's love Trudeau.

I personally hate Trudeau, I think he's a piece of human garbage, but when it comes to the idiots that blocked critical border crossings and stormed/occupied a city illegally for almost a month, he 100% did the right thing.

This isn't the place for this though, so it will be my last off topic post in here.

Apologies to blender and others for having to read this crap in FOI.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yeah, I like Mackey and I think he probably becomes an NHLer.

But the Flames have guys like Mackey. As Sutter said, their D was butter-soft and they needed to change that. Zadorov changes that. Mackey doesn't.

(nothing against Mackey)

Yeah, Treliving is in for one hell of a tough off season.

As if getting our two best wingers signed long term wasn't a hard enough task, especially since they are both Americans, but they both decide to have career seasons in their contract years. Then RFA Kylington decides to break out, and RFA Mangiapane also has a break out season.

Good problems to have I know, but as if that wasn't enough, he is somehow going to have to replace the Zadorov/Gudbranson bottom pairing at a fraction of the cost. Size, toughness, meanness and tons of experience at the NHL level. Pretty much an impossible task.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Yeah, Treliving is in for one hell of a tough off season.

As if getting our two best wingers signed long term wasn't a hard enough task, especially since they are both Americans, but they both decide to have career seasons in their contract years. Then RFA Kylington decides to break out, and RFA Mangiapane also has a break out season.

Good problems to have I know, but as if that wasn't enough, he is somehow going to have to replace the Zadorov/Gudbranson bottom pairing at a fraction of the cost. Size, toughness, meanness and tons of experience at the NHL level. Pretty much an impossible task.

There is only one solution - win the cup this year

[blender]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yeah, I like Mackey and I think he probably becomes an NHLer.

But the Flames have guys like Mackey. As Sutter said, their D was butter-soft and they needed to change that. Zadorov changes that. Mackey doesn't.

(nothing against Mackey)

True, but he is pretty big though, no? Can he play a big physical game and add some speed and talent?

I actually don't know, but it seems plausible. We are still talking about a 5/6 dean here right? The bar isn't too high.