02-25-2022, 10:43 AM
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#821
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carmenshoes
So at what point does Canada, America and European Allies attack back?
They aren't just going to give all of Ukraine to Putin.
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Do you want a nuke dropped on your head? The West will not attack back because no one wants to launch a nuclear holocaust.
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02-25-2022, 10:44 AM
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#822
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carmenshoes
So at what point does Canada, America and European Allies attack back?
They aren't just going to give all of Ukraine to Putin.
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do you want WWIII? Because that's how you get WWIII.
there won't be any attacks.
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02-25-2022, 10:46 AM
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#823
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Do you want a nuke dropped on your head? The West will not attack back because no one wants to launch a nuclear holocaust.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
do you want WWIII? Because that's how you get WWIII.
there won't be any attacks.
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But it is a valid question.
How does the West react to this and future actions like this from Russia (I believe there will be more) & China (I believe they are seeing what the West does).
We can't just sit and watch this type of thing happen.
Clearly diplomacy doesn't work.
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02-25-2022, 10:46 AM
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#824
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carmenshoes
So at what point does Canada, America and European Allies attack back?
They aren't just going to give all of Ukraine to Putin.
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They absolutely will let Ukraine fall without military intervention. We are not sending troops to die for Ukraine ever
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02-25-2022, 10:47 AM
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#825
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Translation from Ukrainian speakers/ cyrillic readers appreciated. It appears Zelenskyy himself is in the streets in uniform ready to fight.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1497254643587588099
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02-25-2022, 10:48 AM
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#826
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
But it is a valid question.
How does the West react to this and future actions like this from Russia (I believe there will be more) & China (I believe they are seeing what the West does).
We can't just sit and watch this type of thing happen.
Clearly diplomacy doesn't work.
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Cold War 2.0.
Hopefully Canada takes its role a bit more seriously now.
The tripwires in the Baltic countries, plus the introduction of Sweden and Finland into NATO, is going to require a lot more serious attention from the alliance.
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02-25-2022, 10:48 AM
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#827
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
But it is a valid question.
How does the West react to this and future actions like this from Russia (I believe there will be more) & China (I believe they are seeing what the West does).
We can't just sit and watch this type of thing happen.
Clearly diplomacy doesn't work.
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Yep, valid question. And it's clearly been answered the last two days. Nothing.
The West cannot afford to intervene and almost certainly unleash MAD.
Hopefully we can cripple Russia's economy into submission.
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02-25-2022, 10:48 AM
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#828
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Do you want a nuke dropped on your head? The West will not attack back because no one wants to launch a nuclear holocaust.
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I mean, i cannot see that happening at all. but i understand the worry
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02-25-2022, 10:50 AM
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#829
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoller
They absolutely will let Ukraine fall without military intervention. We are not sending troops to die for Ukraine ever
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So at what point does Canada send troops then? Poland? Latvia? We'd be obligated to at that point... but then WW3 is started by then.
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02-25-2022, 10:50 AM
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#830
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Lifetime Suspension
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Zelenskyy is going to be an easy target with those giant balls
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02-25-2022, 10:51 AM
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#831
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
But it is a valid question.
How does the West react to this and future actions like this from Russia (I believe there will be more) & China (I believe they are seeing what the West does).
We can't just sit and watch this type of thing happen.
Clearly diplomacy doesn't work.
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it is a valid question for sure. I think it'll rather be a scenario where the aim is to isolate Russia and ruin their economy. But there won't be an armed response unless Putin doesn't stop after Ukraine.
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02-25-2022, 10:51 AM
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#832
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Originally Posted by Cappy
I mean, i cannot see that happening at all. but i understand the worry
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I didn't see a conventional ground war in Europe in our lifetimes happening, yet here we are.
Putin is a mad man. Maybe he was secretly diagnosed with terminal cancer and literally doesn't care anymore. Maybe he wants to go down in history as the one man who successfully attacked the US mainland with nukes.
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02-25-2022, 10:52 AM
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#833
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
Zelenskyy is going to be an easy target with those giant balls
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I mean, regardless of how his life unfolds at this point, this guy deserves a major motion picture. His story is too unbelievable for real life
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02-25-2022, 10:53 AM
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#834
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlameOn
So at what point does Canada send troops then? Poland? Latvia? We'd be obligated to at that point... but then WW3 is started by then.
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We are sending troops.
We are bolstering our presence in the Baltic states, Latvia specifically I think. I mean it is gonna take them a month to get there.....
https://www.cp24.com/news/canada-com...aine-1.5791590
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Canada is sending an additional 460 troops to reinforce the NATO military alliance in eastern Europe, Trudeau said. That includes a 100-soldier artillery unit to Latvia, which will join 540 other Armed Forces members leading a NATO battlegroup in the Baltic state.
A Canadian frigate, the HMCS Halifax, and a CP-140 Aurora patrol plane are also being deployed to eastern Europe, with all the promised forces expected in theatre by the end of March.
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02-25-2022, 10:53 AM
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#835
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
Zelenskyy is going to be an easy target with those giant balls
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our chancellor phoned him yesterday and apparently Zelensky flat out told him that he has no idea how much longer he'd be alive. Chilling stuff.
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02-25-2022, 10:54 AM
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#836
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
it is a valid question for sure. I think it'll rather be a scenario where the aim is to isolate Russia and ruin their economy. But there won't be an armed response unless Putin doesn't stop after Ukraine.
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Can the West isolate Russia?
I suspect China is more than happy to take the space of the West in Russia's economy.
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Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
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02-25-2022, 10:54 AM
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#837
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
I didn't see a conventional ground war in Europe in our lifetimes happening, yet here we are.
Putin is a mad man. Maybe he was secretly diagnosed with terminal cancer and literally doesn't care anymore. Maybe he wants to go down in history as the one man who successfully attacked the US mainland with nukes.
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I guess we would disagree on our opinions on Putin and his cronies. I don't think he's "mad" in the sense he is willing to risk his life and the life of millions to make some weird point.
Again, it's obviously a big risk that NATO isnt willing to take
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02-25-2022, 10:54 AM
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#838
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
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With the Russian counter-battery capabilities, I wouldn't want to be one of the guys crewing our guns. Just like everything, cannot believe we got rid of our SPGs.
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02-25-2022, 10:55 AM
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#839
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Can the West isolate Russia?
I suspect China is more than happy to take the space of the West in Russia's economy.
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Putin's bet is that it can"t, and it's a good bet unfortunately.
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02-25-2022, 10:56 AM
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#840
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
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I really commend this guy's bravery but if you are gonna risk your life wouldn't you do it more effectively?
We've already had one tank running over a civilian today.
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